SultanofSwat posted:real green posted:I have come to the conclusion until I see it on a gun I have no idea how hard someone is throwing.
Exactly. I have had a gun for years, and nobody can guess it from pitch to pitch without a gun.
Loud pops into the mitt, 4S vs 2S, high pitch vs low pitch, swing hard or not, grunting, easy action vs rushed, 'wow' from the stands, all contribute to bad guesses.
All that, and also how far you are from the plate. A field with 60 feet behind the catcher vs a field with 15 feet behind the catcher -- at the latter it will seem a lot faster.