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CaCO3Girl posted:
Chicago643 posted:
2019Dad posted:
Chicago643 posted:
2019Dad posted:
adbono posted:

To say that the 3 high schools in Plano are not competitive would be inaccurate.  Underachieving in one case maybe, but not uncompetitive.  In 2016 seven seniors from Plano West went on to play college baseball.  In 2017 six seniors did the same. 2018 is a bit of a down year so there will only be 4.  But in 2008 Plano West was undefeated and was the mythical national champions.  Also made state tournament (final 4) one other time between 2009 and 2012.  Plano HS has been a playoff team the past 3 years and Coach Robertson does a great job there.  He has sent a lot of players to college programs too.  Plano East is up and down but they also have produced some good players. Jake Arrietta comes to mind.  Maybe you have heard of him.  All the Plano high schools play in a very competitive district.  We see a college bound pitcher EVERY district game. Nobody hits .400 in our district.  Not even Billy McKinney, who was a first round draft pick out of Plano West five years ago and is now on the Yankees 40 man roster.  He hit .389 his senior year. And by the way Arrietta didn't even make all-district in HS. So you really don't know what you are talking about.  Which is no surprise.

Now having said all that, I will add that in the past few years there has been more emphasis on academics and less on athletics in Plano across the entire school district.  Plano West is ranked in the top 1% of public high schools in America.  Current PISD administration is more interested in that than how the athletic teams fare and this has resulted in a dip in athletic performance.  As a result the baseball rosters are not as deep with talent as they have historically been at 2 of the 3 schools.  Demographics have changed too as there are more families that aren't concerned about sports. Plano is an affluent community so add in the fact that Lacrosse is taking athletes away from the traditional sports and that is a factor also. In general a higher percentage of students in the Plano High Schools are more concerned with being prepared to go to college than they are concerned with HS athletics. Not saying that's good or bad, but that's the way it is.

So that's how things are in Plano - from someone who actually does know what he is talking about. 

 

 

I said "theyhave uncompetitive baseball teams." That's current tense. Maybe they were good in 2008 or whatever.

All I did was look up their records last year:

  • Plano East, 8-22 record, ranked as the 5,861st best HS team in the U.S. by Maxpreps
  • Plano West, 13-16-1, ranked as the 2,885th best HS team in the U.S.
  • Plano, 12-18, ranked as the 2,995th best HS team in the U.S.

In my book, that's uncompetitive. Adding in the fact that they have 2,500 or more boys to choose from -- and that they are in a warm-weather state -- I think it's remarkable that they aren't more competitive. Currently. And always, for that matter.

I️ can show you hundreds of teams in warm weather states of the same size that have comparable records. Guess what, someone has to win and lose in league games. That is an ignorant statement.

Really? There are hundreds of high schools with over 5,000 students enrolled? 

Let me guess: your kid play so in a league or area where some big name guys have come out recently, but your kid isn’t a big name guy. But saying you play against or around them somehow gives you credentials to spout off. My point was there are lots of large high schools you would expect to compete who also have down years. Hell, in your own back yard you would think USC would be a perennial powerhouse in baseball but they are a perennial cellar dweller. How do you explain that? You come off like an entitled jerk.

Wow, you really don't know who his kid is,

One of the interesting things on this site is that WE have no idea if we are talking to a kid/parent that is slated for a draft or a kid/parent involved in rec ball. Oh well, probably for the best but I will clear this part up, his kids got nothing to prove.

2019Dad did make an off the cuff comment, most would come to the same conclusion given the data.  The data was apparently wrong, and some people on here had kids be a part of the data.  He apologized and clearly stated he wasn't trying to insult anyone here he was making an observation.   It was others who blew it up and made it a personal attack.

I could tell you my kid is anyone, you would never know for sure. Fact of the matter is, he came out from like a major league jerk.

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