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Value of different PG events

free=good ·
Would like opinions on the value of the different PG events. My 2019 is scheduled to play several PG events this summer (listed below) but I'm wondering how valuable these events are in terms of exposure. Is he better off doing a showcase or will these events generate interest in him from coaches? Generally speaking he wants to play his college ball in the state of Texas so playing at Tx State, U of Houston, TCU and Sam Houston (plus a non-PG Baylor event) seems to make sense to me but are...
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Perfect Game Rankings

Dadcoach ·
My son recently competed with his team at one of the biggest PG events in Sept, winning the National Championship in AZ. As a 2016 graduating pitcher he was ranked very high on the All Tourney team and we have seen an increase in quality D1 recruiting...
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PG EvoShield Nat'l Championship

ILIndians ·
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3yc...ndiansTRFv090213.pdf The Illinois Indians Travel Baseball Club is currently looking for a few more high-level student-athletes to complete our rosters for the following upcoming events: Sept 12-15 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Underclass) 15U – 17U Sept 19-22 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Upperclass) 16U – 18U Sept 27-29 in Cedar Rapids, IA Perfect Game WWBA Kernels Foundation Championship 16U –...
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PG Pitcher/Catcher IA showcase

wsoxfanatic ·
My son received an invite to the PG pitcher/catcher showcase to be held this February at the Cedar Rapids facility.  I found some older threads on this event, so I apologize if I'm re-hashing old information; just looking for some refreshed data. We haven't done much in the way of showcases or camps. His club team hosts a couple of organized exposure "clinics/camps" where they invite several D1, D2 schools to attend which the majority of them do. They also play...
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PG WWBA, EvoShield Nat'l Championship

ILIndians ·
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3yc...ndiansTRFv090213.pdf The Illinois Indians Travel Baseball Club is currently looking for a few more high-level student-athletes to complete our rosters for the following upcoming events: Sept 12-15 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Underclass) 15U – 17U Sept 19-22 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Upperclass) 16U – 18U Sept 27-29 in Cedar Rapids, IA Perfect Game WWBA Kernels Foundation Championship 16U –...
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PG WWBA, EvoShield Nat'l Championship, Etc.

ILIndians ·
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3yc...ndiansTRFv090213.pdf The Illinois Indians Travel Baseball Club is currently looking for a few more high-level student-athletes to complete our rosters for the following upcoming events: Sept 12-15 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Underclass) 15U – 17U Sept 19-22 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Upperclass) 16U – 18U Sept 27-29 in Cedar Rapids, IA Perfect Game WWBA Kernels Foundation Championship 16U –...
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PG WWBA, National Championship, Etc.

ILIndians ·
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3yc...ndiansTRFv090213.pdf The Illinois Indians Travel Baseball Club is currently looking for a few more high-level student-athletes to complete our rosters for the following upcoming events: Sept 12-15 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Underclass) 15U – 17U Sept 19-22 in Phoenix, AZ Perfect Game/Evoshield National Championship (Upperclass) 16U – 18U Sept 27-29 in Cedar Rapids, IA Perfect Game WWBA Kernels Foundation Championship 16U –...
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PG WWBA

pnw2017 ·
I have a few questions regarding the 17u wwba in july. How many college coaches roughly? How many on average per game? Which conferences will be there? How many schools send multiple coaches?
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BOF ·
Congrats. You are doing the right thing getting him to events where he can be seen and by performing well will get him noticed. PG rankings, in general, come from attending their showcase events where players are evaluated and get a specific PG rank. Does it help? Yes. Is it necessary? No. It all comes down to time and budget, Players at the high end of their scale get invited to their invitation only events which are very helpful. Good Luck.
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Re: PG Pitcher/Catcher IA showcase

2017LHPscrewball ·
Probably depends on how your current exposure (via club team) matches up with target schools - and whether the PG event will in fact help with similar matching of schools. Any specifics on what the target list looks like and whether he has been able to get in front on many of these? Or, are you looking to cast a wide net?
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wsoxfanatic ·
They don't actually provide a target list. It would probably be a similar match with a few exceptions to what he's been in front of. Primarily from the Midwestern pool.
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Gov ·
There could be more economic options at this stage of his recruiting... It would helpful to know what class is your son 2017, 2018?
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wsoxfanatic ·
Thanks. He is a 2017 grad
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2017LHPscrewball ·
Do you and/or your 2017 have a target list - based on whatever baseball evals you may have received AND 2017's academic profiles? I would assume that if you club team has sufficient contacts to get several D1's to attend their clinics/camps, then they should probably know which coaches generally attend the Cedar Rapids event. Probably worth it if your target schools are expected to be there, probably not worth it if simply casting a wide net.
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Gov ·
I don't have experience with this event, but from experience I can tell you PG runs very organized events. What is your motivation to go? The rating? Does he have measurable's that will get attention? How big is he? How hard does he throw? How good of a student is he? What are his target schools? I'd be thinking about events where some of those colleges are attending. Also, it could make more sense to hold off for a PG Sunshine or Academic showcase in May or early June. He could get ranked...
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PGStaff ·
Sometimes people tend to think a player just shows up and colleges start recruiting them. Here is how it works... There could be 100 colleges watching your player perform and there might be very little interest, if any. There could be no colleges in attendance and your player is outstanding. There will be many colleges that show serious intertest. We have seen this happen over and over every year. The door is open! You see, we really publicize the kids that can play and college coaches trust...
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2019Lefty21 ·
Along those lines I have a question. My son played 14u last year. We played 4 PG tournaments and saw very little of PG staff anywhere. I understand not a showcase. In one of the events they picked an all tourney team and my son didn't even throw because they were saving him as Sunday pitcher and we got eliminated Saturday afternoon ( not happy with coach that day for sure). On another occasion he was throwing in a semifinal and actually had some one from PG staff visit him in dugout during...
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Iowamom23 ·
So how do you know if your son has the talent to make it worth while? My son is a 2018 and at the end of the summer his FB was clocked at 85. He also catches and plays 3rd. Not sure how you get invited to a PG event, and how you decide if it's worthwhile for your son? We are just starting to think that baseball beyond high school might be an option for him, and trying to learn a lot, so any insight helps.
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PGStaff ·
2019lefty, If those tournaments were run by Perfect Game I assure you there was PG staff at every game. There are certain qualifiers that are run by people other than PG. IowaMom, If your son is a 2018 throwing 85 last summer and he lives in Iowa, you should email staff@perfectgame.org right away. Of course there are other things to consider, but 85 at his age will definitely create interest. BTW, over the past 20 years all but one player that has gone on to play DI college baseball or that...
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Re: PG Pitcher/Catcher IA showcase

howdybaseball ·
Is there a difference between the different PG showcases? Which ones get you the most exposure? Son is 2018 and i am considering a PG showcase this summer. Will the national ones be better or can we stay local in TX and get just the same exposure? Is there a difference between summer and winter showcases? I would like to get some feedback on the most cost effective way to get maximum exposure. Thanks in advance.
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L&GWeb ·
Thank you all for the info! I have a 2017 RHP going to this event. This is his 1st showcase, and we (mom and dad) were hoping for this event to help start the process in his baseball journey. Sounds like he picked a good one to start with. Thx-nebraska parents!
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PGStaff ·
HOWDYBASEBALL, Once again everything depends on how talented your son is. If he has the talent to play at the highest level or be a pro prospect, it is always best to get involved in the National events. Many ask why if he plans on staying within his state does he need to attend a National type event. The reason is it opens up opportunities and increases his value everywhere, including his home state. That said, if we see this type of player at any event, we will do everything possible to...
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howdybaseball ·
PGstaff - thank you for the reply. Personally, i am already aware of PG's effectiveness in talent scouting and know that these events are highly regarded in the baseball community. Kudos to PG on this success!
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2017LHPscrewball ·
PG - I think you might have left out some valid info on who else is also looking at kids - and the relative numbers they each see in a given season and perhaps on a repeat basis. I don't know your numbers, but can only assume that your counts are a multiple of others - 10x+ for all but a few. I'm sure there are some regional differences (PBR's coverage comes to mind even though I personally am not familiar with them), but for the "typical" D1 - not counting all the Top 100 listings - PG has...
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howdybaseball ·
PGstaff, As a follow up, it might be nice to know how you define talent at the national level? Velocity>x, 60yard<x, ht>x, wt>x?
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wsoxfanatic ·
Sorry all- I was out fulfilling my last minute holiday procrastinator roll, and was delighted to see the responses and interest to my OP. My 2017 is 5'11 190. (I'm 6'1 and grew after junior year so hoping he can get another inch or so). He had a max FB last fall at 86. Sits 81-84. He is athletic and has been timed in the 60 at 6.55. As he has developed his mechanics, he has gained 5 mph to his FB since he started HS. His club team is well known in the Chicago/I-94 area for producing...
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2017LHPscrewball ·
Again, given that the club is well known and has some history in producing players, do they have ideas on what activities he should be doing - based on the level of college ball they see him playing? Any other guys from that team heading over to Cedar Rapids?
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PGStaff ·
Not sure, based on your description he should only be pitching. 6.55 and a strong arm are two tools that really stand out. Also, FWIW, power arms often develop into power hitters. There is a 2016 by the name of Josh Lowe who we selected for our All American Game. He is a tall (6'4") RHP and throws in the mid 90s with a good breaking ball and change up. At the same time he is the #1 tools guy in his class. Plus runner, Plus Arm, Plus Field, Plus hitter, Plus Power. He would be a first round...
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wsoxfanatic ·
Thanks for your input. I was not in agreement to have him play for them as a PO. I should have told them no thank you. But it was his decision and he was ok with it. He justified the situation thinking he will get plenty of position play in the spring and summer high school season. I guess they didn't see enough out his bat during the 8 or so flips in the cage, or they felt they had enough outfielders. Sending you a PM.
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Re: PG WWBA

justbaseball ·
Dozens...perhaps even hundreds. Depends on how many prospects in a particular game, 0-30. Most. A lot, sometimes split across the week.
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Bolts-Coach-PR ·
If you're playing at LakePoint there's a good chance there will be hundreds spread across the complex, (from just about EVERY conference in the country) at every part of the day... Depending on the depth of talent of the teams playing could determine how many coaches are at each particular game. Hopefully the organization you're going with has a reputation of getting kids committed, because that could possibly outweigh depth of overall team talent... Coaches do travel to the High Schools...
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pnw2017 ·
Not 100 percent going yet, but the team I would play for had about 90 percent d1 commits last year and their second team had 60 percent. I'm assuming more colleges attend the lake point games than outside fields.
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MKbaseballdad ·
The honest answer is that there are 100s of coaches there but there is no way to guarantee who will be at each game. When my 2016 played there 2 summers ago we saw less coaches at our Lakepoint game than we did at several of our offsite games (there were lots of them at every site we played though). When he pitched at an offsite HS there were about 12-15 coaches there from Fla St, Duke, MD, VA, etc, etc. They were there to see the left handed pitcher and the catcher from the other team.
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Most of these coaches are working from a list of players. They're moving from field to field to see the guys on their list. They don't have much time for just watching games and looking for undiscovered talent. If you go, you'll want your name known to schools that might be a good fit for you. That can happen through your coach, or through your own contact with coaches before going. There are plenty of schools from the west coast, but more are from the south, midwest and east coast.
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pnw2017 ·
Thanks Mk and Mid Atlantic, it makes sense to they have a list. I plan to reach out to the east coast schools that I think will be in attendance. How did your son talk to the coaches through phone or email to get them to watch a few games?
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bacdorslider ·
"90 percent d1 commits last year and their second team had 60 percent." discuss the schools with your travel team coach.... if he has done the above mentioned, you will be fine.
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c2019 ·
hrrm what about 15u ? at lake point
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MKbaseballdad ·
I agree with BDS - discuss with your coach and make sure they are working off the same list as you are and that he is contacting those schools. But you should also be contacting them. There are lots of threads here for you to look at to get an overview of what to do, how to contact, etc so it probably doesn't make a lot of sense to re-list here. There is a current thread open on cold calling coaches that you could look at with a lot of good advice on calling coaches. As a 2017 you are...
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pnw2017 ·
Makes sense. An rc from an east coast d1 told me it would be great to see me there, that they send 3 coaches to that event. He first saw me in az. He is recommending me to a team that goes, and the coach who runs it is also a rc at a d1 east coast, so he probably knows many of the eastern d1s.
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bacdorslider ·
good but not highly recruited... too young
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Sounds like a great start. Since the one RC knows you, I would send him a brief email with your number and a date/time that you plan to call him. That way he can put your name in his phone and know to pick up when you call. You can call him as often as you like, but he can't call you until July 1. Get to know the summer coach. He can act as a go-between. He can call/text you and say, "Call coach Smith right now, he's expecting your call."
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NotThatGuy ·
NTGson played WWBA as 14U, 15U, 16U and 17U. The growth in coaches in attendance grew exponentially as each year came and went. For younger players, the experience is invaluable: quality opponents, now great fields (East Cobb was nice, but nowhere near the quality venue Lake Point is), very good officiating and thrilling competition. If you play in the 16 or 17U WWBA, you must have done your homework as other posters have suggested. The schools in which you are interested have to know of...
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pnw2017 ·
Thanks, we have been communicating over the phone and text last few weeks. I am 2017, so I am able to receive texts and calls from him. Since I don't know if I will be able to go with the team yet, I can't contact the coach. I wonder how it sounds though, saying to a d1 hey call these other d1 coaches for me.
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tres_arboles ·
We did WWBA 15U the summer before son's Junior year. Son showed out and it lead to Sept 1 contacts from two major D1 programs (one East Coast and one West Coast). We didn't see coaches from either school there, but they clearly had eyes there because we had not contacted either prior to the tournament.
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MKbaseballdad ·
"I wonder how it sounds though, saying to a d1 hey call these other d1 coaches for me." You wouldn't have one of the D1 coaches you're in contact with calling other coaches - you'd have the D1 coaches you are contacting call your summer travel team coach to let them know when you should call them directly so they can pick up. The summer coach is the go between - he should be helping you get in front of D1 coaches and also helping you communicate with them up until July 1 when things free up...
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pnw2017 ·
The summer team coach is a d1 rc. And they can call me now too.
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MidAtlanticDad ·
I think PNW's issue is that his potential WWBA coach is the RC for a DI team. I don't have any experience with a situation like that. He probably needs to have a candid conversation with this coach about how he's done this with other recruits.
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pnw2017 ·
MidAtlanticDad, that's exactly correct. I am not sure how to approach it.
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MKbaseballdad ·
Sorry, I missed that part. I just re-read that part. Yes, that is tricky. My 2016's summer team (last two seasons) was coached by a D1 assistant coach. He was hands on and in regular contact with coaches on behalf of players but that was really during the summer season - not during the college season when he was coaching.
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Bolts-Coach-PR ·
I feel, for a D-1 or D-2 prospective player the 16u WWBA is just probably as important, or even more so than the 17u these days... I can tell you, our 16u finished in the final-four, and at one game at LakePoint, we literally had hundreds of scouts and college coaches watching our guys... There was probably 1000 +/- people watching our game that night!
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