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Im going to assume you mean Bluedog and answer your question. 

We met with bluedog several times over the course of a few years.  We met with Rich once for appx 90 minutes.  Bluedog wants all of the weight to start back in the stance and then shift to the middle...Obviously Rich wants weighted rear leg.  Bluedog teaches movement with the arms and an active front hip...Rich teaches no arms and an active rear hip/leg.  Bluedog is big on the sequence...He has a sequence he teaches...he always says the sequence is timing and the timing is sequence.  The sequence is pretty difficult in my opinion to fine tune with him since he lives so far away...so if something breaks down...it's hard to fix..One thing I really like about bluedog's teaching is he really preaches hitting the ball hard...like over the fence.  Hes big on pulling the ball.  He would get colby hitting the ball hard...it was just a longer swing with all of the arm movement, etc.  I will say I consider bluedog a friend.  He wont like me saying this, but he wouldnt take a penny from me and he came to my town a couple times and paid his own expenses...we went down there once as well....and we dont live close to each other at all....he is not a fan of marketers of baseball swings.  He is a really good teacher, whether you like his stuff or not, he finds ways to teach his material when the student is struggling to learn a certain aspect of the swing.  Rich has a structured swing...ie an exact way to do things...how to coil, how to snap the barrel and rear hip, etc.  I like the suddenness of it. Do I agree with all of it? Maybe not, but I do agree with the concepts and see a lot of it in major league hitters.  I agree that the swing path should not be around the spinal axis (like a merry go round)..I also agree with the reactive front leg, ie it catches the swing like a kickstand on a bike....(just my opinion)

These are just my thoughts....I think both hitting instructors have lots of good to offer their students...both are very nice men in person and both are very "cranky" behind the keyboard.  Colby's swing contains elements of both of their teachings and approaches...Is there one exact correct way to hit? Id say no....but Id say professional hitters that are successful all have similar absolutes of the swing...the difficult part is interpreting what those are..and that is why there is an internet hitting war out there, in my opinion...

(If anyone has specific questions about what either teach, feel free to PM me)

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Bluedog and I have been friends for a very long time.  TM and I have been enemies for a very long time.  Both have something to offer and think about.  When my daughter was growing up, I bounced a lot of thoughts off of Bluedog.  Sometimes he agreed and sometimes he did not.  However, his heart has always been in the right place.  He is not about ego other than to stand his ground when attacked.  Believe me, I've attacked him before.  I think that the one constant that I have noticed here on this site and others with regards to hitting is that it is hard for people to stay out of "camps" and glean the best ideas from everyone.  "Everyone" would include a lot of hitting gurus on the net.  Believe me, I've been involved in these discussions since the days of ETeamZ, SetPro, ...  That is as far back as you can go.  

CoachB you make a great point about taking the best ideas from everyone. I do try to do that. I definitely think that Bluedog and Rich have some great ideas. Bluedogs heart is most definitely in the right place. I think he does this because he's passionate about hitting and wants to help players. I know he's not doing it for the money

Work has been relentless lately missed my favorite TV shows and coming here. Thanks Ed for sharing your son's experience with both TM and Bluedog (BD).  Is your son comfortable to keep some of the elements of their teaching in shaping/maintaining his swing? I had a few opportunities to take my kid to TM's clinic out in the North East over the past few years but I was worried of info overload and confusing the lad. He now has a more mature awareness of his movements and he did ask about going to TMs clinic, so I may relent

Ken he posts a ton on his twitter...he doesnt do too many clinics but when he does I'd imagine it's on twitter...2022NYC I do think there's elements of all instruction that he would keep from instructor to instructor...some of the instruction may contradict the others....I think it's like coaching in that coaches aquire info from other coaches all the time and keep what they can use and discard the rest...just my opinion...

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