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bballman posted:

They shouldn't score it differently. It should be an RBI. Mistake or oversight on the SKs part. 

Agree.

When my son was in college, it surprised by how many scorekeeper's errors there were.  The first time or two I noted that to my son and to have one counted against him corrected, he just  wasn't interested in making an effort on what he felt was very minor detail.  So, I just chilled out. 

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It's definitely an RBI at all levels.

Funnyy, and I don't know why I remember it other than the oddity, but I was watching an Astro's game on TV back in 1988. A young catcher picked up his first career  RBI on a bases loaded walk.  I guess I thought it was interesting that a kid's first MLB RBI would have to be remembered that way.

Anyway, the kid went on the the HOF and that RBI still counts in Craig Biggio's total of 1175 over the 20 years he played.

Agree it's an RBI.

Thread drift alert:  so everybody says that all of the gatekeepers ignore HS stats. But is the same true for JC?  One of my son's former teammates is really tearing it up in JC as true freshman in a decent league here in CA.  Fun to see.  Are 4-year schools and/or pro scouts going to give any weight to those numbers?

Funny thing about this is that there is a whole section of the Rule Book dedicated to scoring a baseball game.  It is far and away the largest section of the Rule Book.  Rule 10.04 defines RBI's and this specific scenario is addressed in 10.04(a).

More people than you think have no idea it is there.  I think many believe this is one of those things that is kind of made up and really can be flexible.  No - there are definitions the same as there is for determining the size of the field or strike zone.

Ironically, It is the only section not read by Umpires.  FWIW - There is a section in the Rule Book defining their role too it is Rule 9.  Almost no one is aware of that except the men in Blue themselves.

luv baseball posted:

Funny thing about this is that there is a whole section of the Rule Book dedicated to scoring a baseball game.  It is far and away the largest section of the Rule Book.  Rule 10.04 defines RBI's and this specific scenario is addressed in 10.04(a).

 

More people than you think have no idea it is there.  I think many believe this is one of those things that is kind of made up and really can be flexible.  No - there are definitions the same as there is for determining the size of the field or strike zone.

 

Ironically, It is the only section not read by Umpires.  FWIW - There is a section in the Rule Book defining their role too it is Rule 9.  Almost no one is aware of that except the men in Blue themselves.

 

The one thing I wish was in all rule books, including NCAA and NFHS, is a definition for “Ordinary Effort” like there is in the OBR definitions in rule 2.00. It's just too bad that the other rule books aren't kept up to date with OBR.

JCG posted:

Thread drift alert:  so everybody says that all of the gatekeepers ignore HS stats. But is the same true for JC? One of my son's former teammates is really tearing it up in JC as true freshman in a decent league here in CA.  Fun to see.  Are 4-year schools and/or pro scouts going to give any weight to those numbers?

Sometimes.  My son had a terrific sophomore year at a D2 JuCo.  Ended the regular season with 24 doubles (broke the school record),  Had three more in the regional playoffs.  Was 2nd nationally in that statistical category among the D2 JuCo's.  He also batted .366.

Long story short the day after I moved his stuff back home, he receives a text from a D2 University that was very much interested in him.  They had seen his stats on the NJCAA website.  In the end he received (and accepted) a very nice scholarship offer.  They never actually saw him play.  So yes, there are some that may watch the "stats".

The bottom line is, with technology being what it is and the constant desire for teams to get the best players they can, you can bet somebody’s always looking at the stats. For sure they’re not all looking for the same reasons or for the same things, but good numbers put a lot of players on the radar. That doesn’t always translate into getting a spot, but just might create an opportunity, and that’s a good thing.

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