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I have never seen this happen. I was watching the Cubs at Yankees in today's early game. Yankees had a runner on 3B. The batter, Ellsbury,  while swinging, hits catcher's mitt, but puts ball in play. Pitcher fields ball, tags out Ellsbury,  and Gardner scores from 3B.
I didn't know that in a situation like this, the Manager has a choice. Either take the out and the run scores, or take the CI call, batter takes 1B, and runner returns to 3B. I have been watching baseball my entire life and have never seen this occur.
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Originally Posted by passion4game:
I have never seen this happen. I was watching the Cubs at Yankees in today's early game. Yankees had a runner on 3B. The batter, Ellsbury,  while swinging, hits catcher's mitt, but puts ball in play. Pitcher fields ball, tags out Ellsbury,  and Gardner scores from 3B.
I didn't know that in a situation like this, the Manager has a choice. Either take the out and the run scores, or take the CI call, batter takes 1B, and runner returns to 3B. I have been watching baseball my entire life and have never seen this occur.

CI is the only time the manager has a choice.

Balks are considered a dead ball as soon as it is called.  Funny story about the CI, last year in a fall game we had this happen.  It was the first time any of the coaches, or the umpire, had seen it.  Nobody new what to do and we just elected to take the CI.  I found out later that night from a more experienced umpire what the correct call was.

I beleive balks are a delayed dead ball in OBR - play stands as long as the batter reaches first base.  It is not up to the coach however, so if a runner is on third, balk is called, and batter hits in the infield, runner does not advance and they don't get him out at first, the coach cannot request the balk be honored to get the run. 

Originally Posted by rob88dunham:

I beleive balks are a delayed dead ball in OBR - play stands as long as the batter reaches first base.  It is not up to the coach however, so if a runner is on third, balk is called, and batter hits in the infield, runner does not advance and they don't get him out at first, the coach cannot request the balk be honored to get the run. 

The balk penalty is not enforced if the batter and all runners reach the next base. All codes.

 

A balk is immediately dead (FED,) delayed-dead (OBR, NCAA.)

Originally Posted by rob88dunham:

I beleive balks are a delayed dead ball in OBR - play stands as long as the batter reaches first base.  It is not up to the coach however, so if a runner is on third, balk is called, and batter hits in the infield, runner does not advance and they don't get him out at first, the coach cannot request the balk be honored to get the run. 

All runners must advance for the balk to be ignored.  In your scenario, the runner from third does not advance so the balk is enforced.  And the coach never has a choice on the play or penalty.

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