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My personal MVP of the game was Hunter Renfrow.  2 TDs, 10 receptions including multiple big 3rd down catches and stopped a fumble recovery from scoring - that saved the team 4 points.  He was originally a walk on that everyone said was too small.  Kid had a fantastic game and I don't even remember him being interviewed after the game.  But then, I have a personal preference for small white guys playing big time football - or baseball for that matter.  

I agree with you, but Watson got the offensive MVP.  Sometimes people dont get the credit they deserve, as Watson was passed up twice for Heisman. His best #s come after the regular season ends. 

Renfrow is on the cover of jan 16 SI. I think he got the recognition he deserves.

hshuler posted:
bandera posted:

If Alabama can keep their freshman QB eligible, the next two years look scary good.

Did he have eligibility issues?

I don't think so -- in fact, he entered Alabama a semester early, so he had a semester under his belt before starting this fall.

IMHO, Watson was the only NFL-caliber QB amongst the Final Four teams. And he has all the intangibles as well.

Watch out for USC and Penn State next year -- both were Top 10 teams this year, and they have a ton of starters returning (unlike, say, Michigan).

2019Dad posted:
hshuler posted:
bandera posted:

If Alabama can keep their freshman QB eligible, the next two years look scary good.

Did he have eligibility issues?

I don't think so -- in fact, he entered Alabama a semester early, so he had a semester under his belt before starting this fall.

IMHO, Watson was the only NFL-caliber QB amongst the Final Four teams. And he has all the intangibles as well.

Watch out for USC and Penn State next year -- both were Top 10 teams this year, and they have a ton of starters returning (unlike, say, Michigan).

For those who are interested in knowing how how many returning starters....

http://www.espn.com/college-fo...oo-early-top-25-2017

hshuler posted:
2019Dad posted:
hshuler posted:
bandera posted:

If Alabama can keep their freshman QB eligible, the next two years look scary good.

Did he have eligibility issues?

I don't think so -- in fact, he entered Alabama a semester early, so he had a semester under his belt before starting this fall.

IMHO, Watson was the only NFL-caliber QB amongst the Final Four teams. And he has all the intangibles as well.

Watch out for USC and Penn State next year -- both were Top 10 teams this year, and they have a ton of starters returning (unlike, say, Michigan).

For those who are interested in knowing how how many returning starters....

http://www.espn.com/college-fo...oo-early-top-25-2017

The following link is probably more in line with this forum:

http://www.perfectgame.org/Art...w.aspx?article=13435

A couple closing thoughts about the 2016-17 college football season.....

1) ACC football made a huge rebound in 2016-17.  Once a laughingstock, it is now a very respectable conference based on their head to head bowl results.  I'm not sure what happened to the Big 10 and SEC conferences this year, but I'm sure they will be back.  I think there is more depth in the ACC than there has been in a real long time.

2) It pains me to see juniors (and underclassmen) declare for the NFL draft when they clearly are not ready.

3) I like the way the NCAA handled the "targeting" calls this year...and I like the rule.  The NFL should put on their big boy pants and learn a thing or two from the college officials about targeting rather than swallowing their whistles. 

4) I'm not a huge Dabo Swinney or Clemson fan, but I really liked the way Swinney handled and stood up for Watson with regards to the Heisman.... "DeShaun didn't lose out on the Heisman, they lost out on him.......etc".   I can respect a Coach that stands up for his guy in that manner especially when it is true.  Love it.  Deshaun Watson is an impressive QB, leader and young man.

5) For me, college football is still so much more exciting than the NFL.  My middle son agrees.  He went to the "Battle at Bristol" (Tennessee vs Virginia Tech), the ACC championship (Clemson vs Virginia Tech) and the Belk Bowl (Arkansas vs Virginia Tech) in his senior year at VT.  He had a blast.  Funny thing is that he ran into his future boss at each one of these events, and tossed down a few cold ones. 

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fenwaysouth posted:

 

5) For me, college football is still so much more exciting than the NFL.  My middle son agrees.  He went to the "Battle at Bristol" (Tennessee vs Virginia Tech), the ACC championship (Clemson vs Virginia Tech) and the Belk Bowl (Arkansas vs Virginia Tech) in his senior year.  He had a blast.

And just the opposite for me. I'm originally from the NY/NJ area, and college football comes in second from the league where they pay for play. The same applies for other urban areas: NE loves them some Pats, then there's Philly, of course Chicago, Detroit, and so on. College football just doesn't compare. It just depends upon where you're from.

MidAtlanticDad posted:

A random note for the Clemson folks... a total solar eclipse is going to make its way across the continental USA on August 21, 2017. The sun should be almost entirely blocked by the moon for about 2-1/2 minutes while over Clemson at 2:38pm EDT.  Should be pretty spectacular.

I read the other day that it snowed in Clemson right before they won the first championship, like it did last week.

joemktg posted:
fenwaysouth posted:

 

5) For me, college football is still so much more exciting than the NFL.  My middle son agrees.  He went to the "Battle at Bristol" (Tennessee vs Virginia Tech), the ACC championship (Clemson vs Virginia Tech) and the Belk Bowl (Arkansas vs Virginia Tech) in his senior year.  He had a blast.

And just the opposite for me. I'm originally from the NY/NJ area, and college football comes in second from the league where they pay for play. The same applies for other urban areas: NE loves them some Pats, then there's Philly, of course Chicago, Detroit, and so on. College football just doesn't compare. It just depends upon where you're from.

I agree with you that it depends on where you come from. In a state that has no professional  sports, college sports rules. One of the reasons why Clemson fans are nuts about their sports teams.  One of the reasons why  son attended and played baseball. Fans always in the seats.

 

3) I like the way the NCAA handled the "targeting" calls this year...and I like the rule. The NFL should put on their big boy pants and learn a thing or two from the college officials about targeting rather than swallowing their whistles.

The concept is right. The problem is I saw too many times the player with the ball ducked after the tackler was committed. The tackler accidentally hit the ball carrier in the head and got ejected.

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It was definitely one of the all time great post season college games. I know this because Mrs. G came into  the family room wanting to watch some Sherlock or something, sat down,  and saw that the 4th quarter had just started.  She watched the entire quarter without once asking when the game would be over, why it was taking so long, and did I really have to see it to the end.  First time that's ever happened, and probably the last.

Shoveit4Ks posted:

College football rules the South. I am an NFL guy and a Cowboys fan, which is a good thing this year. Clemson does have solid crowds every game and huge family turnout. Lots of young kids and older folks as well. I'm sure there will be a few more this year since the ACC championship last season. Can't wait for Wright State!

Go Cowboys!

JCG posted:

It was definitely one of the all time great post season college games. I know this because Mrs. G came into  the family room wanting to watch some Sherlock or something, sat down,  and saw that the 4th quarter had just started.  She watched the entire quarter without once asking when the game would be over, why it was taking so long, and did I really have to see it to the end.  First time that's ever happened, and probably the last.

So she missed the Rose Bowl this year?!?

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