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They have been suspended indefinitely and UCLA is reviewing the situation. They are obviously very fortunate to be back in the US with no charges pending but they are still paying a price for their actions. Anyone who has ever played competitive sports knows that not playing due to injury, suspension, etc., absolutely sucks!!!! They are also having to sit down in front of the national media and discuss their dumb decisions which will be archived forever. Seems like fair enough punishment to me for first time offense. Don't forget these players are still teenagers...6 months removed from high school. 

I would say a year suspension from the team is reasonable, though probably fairly light considering the POTUS had to get involved to keep their butts out of a Chinese jail for a few years.   Gotta wonder how a college kid in the US will feel when he steals a pair of shades and doesn't have the luxury of having that kind of pull to get their charges dropped.

I'm sure folks will remember the 2012 CWS where a P5 player (starting DH, freshman) and his brother were arrested for shoplifting CWS merchandise in Omaha on eve of the team's first game. Both player and brother were arrested and jailed.  Charges were eventually dropped and they were released.

The player was 19 years old.  Was suspended from team "indefinitely" at time, not sure by who?  NCAA or school or HC or what? 

Some time later, HC said publicly that the kid made a mistake and that HC "believed in 2nd chances.  But not 3rd chances."  

Following year player was reinstated but was stripped of his scholarship.  Kid was on roster that next year but never saw field due to injury.  Ended up transferring to a JUCO, then got picked up by another P5 the following year.  Now playing pro ball.  

So, in that case kid was stripped of scholarship at the school, but was allowed to play following season, but ended up not playing due to injury.

All on the web.   

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Despite being a diehard UCLA basketball fan (neighbors heard me when Tyus Eddy went end to end on Missouri - went on to win it all) I believe they should be tossed out of school for a year. They embarrassed the university, the country and the basketball world. If they don’t come back, so what. No player is bigger than the game. What doesn’t seem to be getting much play is they stoled items from three different stores.

Bonus - Haven’t heard from the loudmouth father in days

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When I first heard of this, I thought the Chinese gov't handled this well.  This could have gone sideways in a hurry, but didn't.

The Ball family just likes to make news whether it is good or bad....it doesn't matter.  I'm waiting for the Ball father to figure out a way to cash in on this incident.   Wait for it.....it's coming.

fenwaysouth posted:

When I first heard of this, I thought the Chinese gov't handled this well.  This could have gone sideways in a hurry, but didn't.

The Ball family just likes to make news whether it is good or bad....it doesn't matter.  I'm waiting for the Ball father to figure out a way to cash in on this incident.   Wait for it.....it's coming.

Lonzo is a class act. The dad is an ass act. LiAngelo is obviously a brain dead, pampered jock who didn’t understand consequences until the Chinese police showed up at his door. It’s mind boggling these kids didn’t consider where they were before turning stupid. I don’t believe dad can be humbled. I’m betting the kid is. The youngest brother would be wise to use Lonzo as a role model.

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I don't think getting kicked out of school is warranted.  Make them stay in school...stay out of trouble and let them come back next year.  Kids do stupid things....the fact that this was in China magnified it.  I don't think it was worth 3 years in jail, but I also don't feel like UCLA can just look at it the same as if they swiped the glasses from a store down the street from campus

baseballmom posted:

Where is character? Those kids didn't just wake up one day to STUPID...That's a trait they've been nurturing for awhile! There's no excuse, but somewhat defective parenting, imo.  Somehow they missed the lessons on right & wrong, if indeed, it was ever taught. 

As one mom to another, way to go!  What kind of parents do these kids have? If it were mine, he would know you don't mess around when you are representing your school and country. If he did, he would wanna stay there because he would be in a hell of a lot of trouble with his mom and dad.

Father Ball was on the trip doing business for his shoe line. This sounds like a business deal was struck.  

Our country looks bad enough to the rest of the world.   Chinese think we are fools as it is.

Let's stop making excuses that they are just kids.  Most kids with parents who parent know better.

TPM posted:
baseballmom posted:

Where is character? Those kids didn't just wake up one day to STUPID...That's a trait they've been nurturing for awhile! There's no excuse, but somewhat defective parenting, imo.  Somehow they missed the lessons on right & wrong, if indeed, it was ever taught. 

As one mom to another, way to go!  What kind of parents do these kids have? If it were mine, he would know you don't mess around when you are representing your school and country. If he did, he would wanna stay there because he would be in a hell of a lot of trouble with his mom and dad.

Father Ball was on the trip doing business for his shoe line. This sounds like a business deal was struck.  

Our country looks bad enough to the rest of the world.   Chinese think we are fools as it is.

Let's stop making excuses that they are just kids.  Most kids with parents who parent know better.

Suspended from team one year at least. That should be enough. Some kind of community service as well, 40 hours minimum! UCLA should enforce this and I’d be somewhat ok at this point!

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TPM posted:
baseballmom posted:

Where is character? Those kids didn't just wake up one day to STUPID...That's a trait they've been nurturing for awhile! There's no excuse, but somewhat defective parenting, imo.  Somehow they missed the lessons on right & wrong, if indeed, it was ever taught. 

As one mom to another, way to go!  What kind of parents do these kids have? If it were mine, he would know you don't mess around when you are representing your school and country. If he did, he would wanna stay there because he would be in a hell of a lot of trouble with his mom and dad.

Father Ball was on the trip doing business for his shoe line. This sounds like a business deal was struck.  

Our country looks bad enough to the rest of the world.   Chinese think we are fools as it is.

Let's stop making excuses that they are just kids.  Most kids with parents who parent know better.

This trip was a lot bigger than Lavar Ball, his mouth and Big Baller sneakers. Alibaba sponsored the trip. It was in conjunction with Aliaba having the advertising rights for the premier of the PAC 12 Network being broadcast in China starting with the basketball season. What the PAC 12 sees in the deal is exposure for the colleges in the conference for international students (high priced tuition). So the players also embarrassed the PAC 12 and Alibaba.

RJM posted:
TPM posted:
baseballmom posted:

Where is character? Those kids didn't just wake up one day to STUPID...That's a trait they've been nurturing for awhile! There's no excuse, but somewhat defective parenting, imo.  Somehow they missed the lessons on right & wrong, if indeed, it was ever taught. 

As one mom to another, way to go!  What kind of parents do these kids have? If it were mine, he would know you don't mess around when you are representing your school and country. If he did, he would wanna stay there because he would be in a hell of a lot of trouble with his mom and dad.

Father Ball was on the trip doing business for his shoe line. This sounds like a business deal was struck.  

Our country looks bad enough to the rest of the world.   Chinese think we are fools as it is.

Let's stop making excuses that they are just kids.  Most kids with parents who parent know better.

This trip was a lot bigger than Lavar Ball, his mouth and Big Baller sneakers. Alibaba sponsored the trip. It was in conjunction with Aliaba having the advertising rights for the premier of the PAC 12 Network being broadcast in China starting with the basketball season. What the PAC 12 sees in the deal is exposure for the colleges in the conference for international students (high priced tuition). So the players also embarrassed the PAC 12 and Alibaba.

I didnt know all of that, other than some type of business deal was going on.

Makes me even angrier.

RJM posted:

Despite being a diehard UCLA basketball fan (neighbors heard me when Tyus Eddy went end to end on Missouri - went on to win it all) I believe they should be tossed out of school for a year. They embarrassed the university, the country and the basketball world. If they don’t come back, so what. No player is bigger than the game. What doesn’t seem to be getting much play is they stoled items from three different stores.

Bonus - Haven’t heard from the loudmouth father in days

Maybe Trump sent dad there to serve his kid's dime.

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