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Curious if anyone has worked with Kyle and the Driveline guys remotely and what their experiences are...  My 2017LHP worked with a similar program last off-season and saw some real improvements.  Thinking of doing the Driveline remote program this off-season so he can learn how to implement a program he can work himself vs going to a group program a couple times a week.  That way he is able to do this on his own once he is in college playing next year.  Thoughts?

 

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I try to stay out of the threads about my business and urge people to contact my support team I don't like bringing my business to the forums, I find it stifles discussion. People should be free to speak their mind.

I will say the price is not cheap but it's because we devote so many hours to the remote training. We had a cheaper option but we had too many signups (humble brag) and not enough dedicated clientele. We also urge people to train in our facility as well due to the massive amount of technological and expert help we have that no one else can duplicate, which is why the pricing includes training in our facility as well.

It was a business decision that was not easily made, unfortunately. As others have noted, you can do our free comprehensive program on the website using our products (or honestly, others if you are in a financial bind) and we have hundreds of blog posts for free on our site for your perusal including first-party research no one else does.

 

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Kyle -- Thanks for chiming in.  I have heard nothing by amazing things about Driveline.  I've been reading your weekly newsletter and the research you have posted closely for more than a year.  It is really Impressive. The amount of insights and information you provide is helpful and I would recommend anyone with a pitcher to check out their blog and research areas on the site.  

 REALLY wish we lived closer to Kent -- commuting from the Bay Area is tough with my LHP being a senior in high school.

I sent you a PM

Thanks

 

 

I highly recommend Driveline's programs. My son did remote training for 9 months under the old program. However, it was a lot of work and it was difficult for him to stay on top of it. I think the price increase will help weed out the truly committed from the ones who are just dabbling. I would love to have my son work the program again, but right now, he just doesn't have the time required. So, he's using the supplies we have, along with the books and other info he accumulated to continue working toward his goal. He's a high school junior and did the program during his Sophomore year.

I will say that he picked up velocity (who knows how much was due to the program and how much was due to just growing), but the even bigger advantage was his arm health. He does not get fatigued like other pitchers on his teams, he does not suffer from arm pain and his recovery time is quick. He learned so much about taking care of and building up his arm. That investment alone was worth it.

I haven't checked the prices recently. My son went for two months and the discount for the longer program was significant enough to make it an affordable summer. He rented a bedroom from a former college player who owns a condo the next town over, bought a bike for about $25 to use for his daily commute, and bought food from Costco and cooked for himself. Total cost for the summer including cross-country airfare was about $3500--less than what lots of high school parents pay for travel ball in any given summer.

The advantage of attending in person is not just the discipline of doing the full program every day. In fact, if you need other people to motivate you to do the work, you're probably not serious enough about it anyway. For my son, the big advantages of being there were 1) knowing he was doing everything the right way, 2) knowing all the measurements were taken the same way, 3) rubbing shoulders with and picking the brains of similarly motivated players, many of whom were more advanced than he is, and 4) unlimited use of the facility.

He's still doing the program every day. Velocity hasn't come around yet--he is recovering from surgery, so there's no guarantee it ever will. But he says his arm has never felt healthier. He's a big believer in what Kyle teaches.

So glad this thread has been resurrected. After some preliminary research, this is something we'd seriously considering doing for our 2019. We've tried a lot of local options in our area and just not really seen marked results. It sort of feels like most "academy"-style outfits in our neck of the woods are more spot-check type situations rather than the product being a plan that can be executed upon.

From an expense and logistics standpoint, the 1-week eval with continuing homework might be our best bet but I'd love to be able to send him for a month. I just don't think he's really at the age (17) and maturity level to be that far away and not have one of us parents (or a coach, etc.) with him day to day. I'd very much appreciate feedback anyone else might have about their experiences. Also, thanks Kyle for your input above. Looks like a fantastic program!

Resurrecting this thread. Anyone done the remote pitching instruction lately? Thinking about having my son start up on the program. If the Driveline website is correct, it looks like the remote pitching instruction is $199/month, which to me seems to be a pretty fair price. We are possibly looking at TBR also (We live about 20 minutes away from there) but it seems that their niche is more of the weekend camp. I figured with covid situation right now and starting off the school year online, my son could possibly do the Driveline remote training in the mornings. But I wanted to see if anyone was doing this right now and how it was working out.

A friend had his kid do Florida Baseball Ranch for 2 weeks. He said it was worth every penny, but next time he’d rent a house instead of staying in a hotel. 

My son doesn’t do the Driveline training online but has all the equipment. Their manuals are pretty helpful and their support is the best I’ve experienced. They are super helpful and will provide great tips. 

I received this info this week in response to an inquiry email.  I specifically asked about in person assessment followed by remote training.

 

"Thanks for reaching out earlier about having your son train at Driveline! We are indeed open and taking athletes for assessments. If you guys would be looking to start up, you can give a call in to (425) 523-4030 to check availability and lock in a spot with that deposit (see more in the, "Get Started," section).

The first step to training with us is going through the Biomechanics Assessment. Going through this process will provide him and our trainers with a ton of information on understanding some of the strengths and weaknesses in his delivery. He will then be able to go home and complete those workouts remotely with our online training program. He will have his own assigned online trainer who will use the information from the Biomechanics Lab to program drills and workouts centered around his goals and improving any deficiencies that may exist.

Pricing for this is as follows:

Initial Assessment (1 week) - $2249
Monthly In-Gym Training After Assessment - $499
Monthly Online Training After Assessment - $199


If you are interested in having him continue to train with us online after coming out here and/or coming back out here over breaks from school, our annual plan is going to offer you the best value for that. That comprehensive program is detailed below:

Annual Training Plan - $3999 - Includes:

  • Initial Assessment + Biomechanics Report
  • 90 days of In-Gym Training
  • 9 months of Bridge Online Training
  • $500 in credit toward training gear or equipment to ensure that he has any equipment he might need to continue to train from school and home throughout the year

Details:

  • Athletes can swap any of their 9 months of online training into In-Gym training for the difference between the two ($499 In-Gym - $199 Bridge) of $300 per month
  • The $500 credit amount does not stack over multiple years if it is not used. Also, the $500 credit can be used as partial payment toward a more expensive item (Rapsodo / Axe Bats / etc).
  • Payment plans are available (3 equal payments of $1333 spread out over 90 days)


***NOTE: All prices will have 10% tax added at the time of payment***"

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I have coached guys remotely and had some very good results but there is a caveat: like remote learning in school it requires a lot of self motivation by the kids, it is easier to slouch it in remote learning.

So if the kid doesn't have the drive to work hard, shoot video 3-4 times a week and be honest with himself it might be a waste of money.

  The assessment was invaluable. Was done fall 2018. Son learned a lot about himself as a pitcher, the condition of his arm, and how his body works. He loves working one on one with his remote trainer, who is a MiLB pitcher. He is getting him ready for the next level, as he is committed to play in college.

Our primary goal with the program was preventative arm care. He had no regular arm care routine in place before Driveline. After just a few months, he told us his arm felt better than it ever had. A year and a half later, that continues to be the case. 

 I can't tell you that Driveline is a magic bullet. I'm sure you already know that there is no such thing. If your son wants to see how far his body will take him, it will be a combination of training, lifting, eating well, sleeping enough, not drinking/drugs, and genetics. However, Driveline can be a big part of that. Players are doing something nearly every day of the week, and everything they do, is tailored to them and their schedule. In season and out. If you have an assessment, they will design a lifting program for them as well. It directly correlates to what they find in the assessment. Son had already been lifting, so his trainer just incorporated some things into what he was already doing.

 ....Has his velocity increased? Yes, but it has never stopped since he began pitching. So how much is attributed directly to the Driveline program, I cannot say. 

If your son is a motivated and driven athlete, then I think the money will be well spent.

 

Thanks Mom!  Great info, much appreciated.  My son is a 2022 and has been working out on a 6 day a week program for the past 12 months.  This is a remote program as well so he is good working on his own.  His strength and mobility has improved significantly and his velo has increased as well.  Like your son, it has never stopped increasing since we started tracking it so not sure how much to attribute to his current program.  He has also been healthy and throws with no pain at any time.

 

We are simply thinking of options for the next step in his journey.  He has worked hard on his general fitness to pitch and we are now looking for specificity focused on refining mechanics, arm path, etc....

Thanks for the feedback. We are being proactive and looking to the fall school semester and what limitations there will be on training for the baseball season. I have to imagine that "fall ball" and the traditional baseball class will be pretty much non existent. So looking for a program that he can work through himself and not lose any ground. Also, there are some mechanical flaws in his pitching motion that need to be corrected and hoping that Driveline can help out with those. 

Glad I ran across this thread. My son and I are heading up to Driveline next week for the assessment and another week in the gym. then back home and start the remote training. I am thankful that this is available. My son has come a long way, but has never had high level coaching and is mostly self taught. I will update later in the program. He is 6'3'', 215, and last bullpen on turf sat 90-91 touching 92 (his game / clay numbers are usually a couple ticks higher than his turf numbers).

@ARCEKU21 posted:

After talking to a couple of the guys at Driveline, we signed up for the remote pitching training. Supposed to be getting our coach assigned soon and the initial work out plan based on the info we sent. Looking forward to how this pans out over the next several months.

Please let us know how it progresses. We just came home from a week in the facility and the mechanics, strength, and mobility analyses. My son had already done some Driveline type conditioning last summer with Optimum Athletes in Sacramento so he had a solid baseline of strength and mobility but a few things to work on were identified. His mechanics were also solid EXCEPT for one specific area which they have given him a workout plan to address. The computer modeling is a fantastic tool; video analysis can get you a long way but motion tracking and their data sets are an important tool to get everything dialed in. 

How much value is their program for a primary catcher (is it worth the cost)?  And how is their hitting training?  I don't hear as much people talk about that.  We have a local facility that supposedly have a driveline training program.  They do all the measurement and daily training (5x a week).  I don't know if they are an officially recognized program by driveline or someone who went through the driveline program and delivering this on their own based on that program.

@atlnon posted:

How much value is their program for a primary catcher (is it worth the cost)?  And how is their hitting training?  I don't hear as much people talk about that.  We have a local facility that supposedly have a driveline training program.  They do all the measurement and daily training (5x a week).  I don't know if they are an officially recognized program by driveline or someone who went through the driveline program and delivering this on their own based on that program.

Ask if they are certified or call Driveline to ask if they are.

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