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My 2019 needed to gain weight ,well that's what every coach and scout had told him, so after fall ball ,and the last PG tourney in FT Myers my son went to work, when we got back home he told me pop they haven't seen anything yet, thanks to JOEMKTG on giving me some simple advice on how to gain weight and muscle, from mid Oct to now my son had put on over 25lbs , went from 5,9 ft  140 to 165lbs , with no fat!,  hes works out and eats right and like a animal  so he can achieve his goal . he went from shirt size being  small to Large, no joke he has his whole school stopping him and telling him dudeee you got big!, he feels good that the work is showing , oh and he hits the ball  even harder now! 

so when a Area  Scout notes were,

Really good overall switch hitting catcher. Max effort with everything he does. Has arm strength and overall strength. Swing from both side shows some power might be better from left side.  "
 
Hard work and commitment pay off for us.
 
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Big Taco posted:

C2019 - what's your secret? Peanut Butter sandwiches?

BiG Taco- love the name.

Funny you said that ,cause 2019 eats 1-2 PB&J at school

but eats Breakfast at home mostly omelets,then eats a 2nd one at school PB&J,

has protein weight gainer, and eats lots of Rice( being latino helps with rice and beans LOL)- meat -chicken -pork, carbs, and lifts almost everyday, but different parts of the body.

Joe Mktg- said

Combination of two factors:

1) Ingesting the proper amount of protein each day. Rule of thumb: 1 gram of protein per desired bodyweight.

2) Strength and conditioning at least 4x per week.

One without the other is a waste of time. Needs to be done concurrently

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I've heard that offensive linemen will make balls out of protein powder and peanut butter to add weight (not necessarily the good kind).  

The best thing I've found for gaining good weight is exercise including weight training,  coupled with a high protein diet (tuna or grilled chicken) --and lots of hard boiled eggs and whole milk. 

C2019,

Good stuff.  Just a heads-up, he will lose anywhere from 10-20 lbs of weight from beginning of HS ball to end of summer travel season.  Just a fact that he cannot keep up with the weight gain from strength and conditioning while maintaining his playing ability (i.e., can't lift and play simultaneously due to many factors, most importantly being risk of injury).  Go ahead and forewarn him that this is likely.

My son went through similar effort and results as yours after his freshman year.  He now understands that he has multiple seasons, one of which is his strength and conditioning/weight gain season which is now (typically October through mid Jan).  He will lift in between off days during season, but that's more to manage more than gain muscle.  One season that is year round is proper nutrition.  Caution him that when the baseball season begins, he needs to maintain healthy eating habits.  This is critical.

Also, time of day of ingestion of the various proteins is important.  One tip while he's in this heavy workout season is to drink a protein cocktail right before bed that consists of milk, protein powder, peanut butter and greek yogurt.

I assume that he has a good trainer/nutritionist managing/limiting supplements?  bcaa, kre-alkalyne, glutamine, etc., and when to take (prior to/after workouts), etc.  Also critical to maximizing healthy, managed weight gain.

Congrats on the success your son is seeing.  It becomes addictive when he works hard and see's corresponding results.  Great motivator.

Nuke83 posted:

C2019,

Good stuff.  Just a heads-up, he will lose anywhere from 10-20 lbs of weight from beginning of HS ball to end of summer travel season.  Just a fact that he cannot keep up with the weight gain from strength and conditioning while maintaining his playing ability (i.e., can't lift and play simultaneously due to many factors, most importantly being risk of injury).  Go ahead and forewarn him that this is likely.

My son went through similar effort and results as yours after his freshman year.  He now understands that he has multiple seasons, one of which is his strength and conditioning/weight gain season which is now (typically October through mid Jan).  He will lift in between off days during season, but that's more to manage more than gain muscle.  One season that is year round is proper nutrition.  Caution him that when the baseball season begins, he needs to maintain healthy eating habits.  This is critical.

Also, time of day of ingestion of the various proteins is important.  One tip while he's in this heavy workout season is to drink a protein cocktail right before bed that consists of milk, protein powder, peanut butter and greek yogurt.

I assume that he has a good trainer/nutritionist managing/limiting supplements?  bcaa, kre-alkalyne, glutamine, etc., and when to take (prior to/after workouts), etc.  Also critical to maximizing healthy, managed weight gain.

Congrats on the success your son is seeing.  It becomes addictive when he works hard and see's corresponding results.  Great motivator.

Yeah, that is the hard part.  My 2017 put on a bunch of weight from July into November, but now with basketball practice he's struggling to keep it on.  One thing that helps is that his practices and games are at 7:30.  So he eats a full dinner at 6 and another after he's done with ball.

My son was 5'11" 135 when fall ball ended soph year. By March he was 6' 160. It was just his time to fill out. We joked we needed a glass door on the fridge so it wouldn't be open while he thought what to eat about every over hour.

During this time period he drank proteain shakes and worked out every day. It was the first time he didn't play basketball. Instead of burning off weight in practice he was packing it on. Even at 6'2" 195 (now) he still has the build/appearance of a point guard.

I posted the following in another thread a while back. My baseball player son wrestled at 140 pounds as a high school freshman (and he never had to worry about making weight in that class) and 215 pounds as a senior, so all the weight he gained was lean mass. He wrestled 160 as a sophomore, and 189 as junior, so the weight gain was steady throughout his high school career.

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Here's what worked for us:

1) A hot, hearty breakfast every day. No cold cereal, no breakfast bars, no pop tarts. Real food: eggs, potatoes, meat, toast, and juice. Vary the routine with breakfast burritos, omelets, chicken/gravy/biscuits, and other recipes.

2) Pack extra sandwiches and fruit for him to eat between classes and after school before practice/workout.

3) Normal lunch during school lunch period.

4) Big dinner waiting on the table the minute he gets home.

5) Peanut butter sandwiches or cottage cheese at bedtime.

Don't let him sleep in on the weekends. If he really needs some make up zzzzz's, wake him up at the usual schoolday time, make him eat his usual breakfast, then let him go back to bed.

Most kids who say they can't gain weight actually eat a lot less than they think they do. A typical day for these kids starts with a skipped or junkfood breakfast, a school lunch suitable for a small non-athlete as early as 10:00 or 11:00 in the morning, then nothing until after practice ends. Then they binge on fast food and other junk after practice because they've been starved for eight hours. They think they're eating a lot, when in fact they're just backloading useless calories. After-the-fact binging doesn't undo the damage of letting the body consume itself all day long.

Fill him up with good food when he gets up, give him a sensible snack every two or three hours all day long, and top him off again with something that has both fat and protein when he goes to bed. Do this every single day. It works, and it's much cheaper than fast food or supplements.

Another side benefit is breakfast becomes one of their special memories. I'd get up early, cook the breakfast and set their plates in the warm oven or on the stovetop under an overturned skillet. The boys loved stalking into the kitchen and peeking under the skillets or into the oven to find what feast has been prepared for them. When they grow up and move away, they treasure coming home and getting "Dad's breakfast" served to them again.

Best wishes.

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Swampboy posted:

 

Most kids who say they can't gain weight actually eat a lot less than they think they do. A typical day for these kids starts with a skipped or junkfood breakfast, a school lunch suitable for a small non-athlete as early as 10:00 or 11:00 in the morning, then nothing until after practice ends. Then they binge on fast food and other junk after practice because they've been starved for eight hours. They think they're eating a lot, when in fact they're just backloading useless calories. After-the-fact binging doesn't undo the damage of letting the body consume itself all day long.

 

Couldn't agree more.  A bowl of cereal for breakfast, a measly turkey sandwich for lunch, then "killing a double meat Chipotle burrito" after practice is still undereating for high school athlete, even if they perceive it as a lot of food because of the burrito.

Swampboy posted:

 

Another side benefit is breakfast becomes one of their special memories. I'd get up early, cook the breakfast and set their plates in the warm oven or on the stovetop under an overturned skillet. The boys loved stalking into the kitchen and peeking under the skillets or into the oven to find what feast has been prepared for them. When they grow up and move away, they treasure coming home and getting "Dad's breakfast" served to them again.

I liked the truth in your whole post, but especially like this part.

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