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Thanks in advance for all of your help and for allowing me to vent. Being patient with the recruiting process is a must but it is challenging.

2019 Son attended a multi-college camp this weekend...he went off:

2 HR, 2 Doubles and a triple in 6 ABs. All 5 hits were hit hard. 

He has emerging power, hustles always, good size, 60 time under 7, and is an A student. Plays on a very good travel team. Has been on the radar of a few schools (no offers), several of which were at this event. No college coaches spoke to any players after the event, however all of the college coaches were engaged during games (clipboards, radar guns, stopwatches, taking notes, etc.). It was a well run event.

Son followed up with an e-mail to some coaches at the event indicating that it was fun to play in front of them and that he was hopeful that he left a good impression. A few coaches at the event were familiar with him as son has e-mailed video and updates over past year. This event had all levels of schools (mostly D1 but several D2, D3). 

He has received zero feedback. No return e-mails, no phone calls, no texts. Nothing. It has only been a few days....however I have read that "if they want you, you will know it, and fast." Most important part is that WCP Jr. is much more patient and calm about the whole situation. I'm trying to be as well.

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My 2019 went to a similar, but I think different, event.  He did not go off, but he had one strong game.  He hasn't heard anything yet, either, but frankly, I'm not expecting him to at this point.  These coaches are back at their schools, with their assistants, sorting through lots of info that they just got.  I'm thinking patience is the way to go.  Keep plugging away at logical points with new video/info. I empathize with you though. If my kid had a weekend like yours, I would want his phone to blow up, too, and would be eager for some endorsement of his talent!

smokeminside posted:

My 2019 went to a similar, but I think different, event.  He did not go off, but he had one strong game.  He hasn't heard anything yet, either, but frankly, I'm not expecting him to at this point.  These coaches are back at their schools, with their assistants, sorting through lots of info that they just got.  I'm thinking patience is the way to go.  Keep plugging away at logical points with new video/info. I empathize with you though. If my kid had a weekend like yours, I would want his phone to blow up, too, and would be eager for some endorsement of his talent!

Your reply is rather comforting and I do appreciate it - Thank you. Here's hoping your son gets some attention from his strong game.    

West Coast:

What position does your son play? I'm guessing  MI or OF. Given his grades (A average), if you are looking at "high academic" schools, you are still early. Try to get on the radar with as many schools as possible; given your son's performance he probably has some additional interest. A number of coaches go for a string of recruiting events on a trip, often not one showcase. There is some time that they need to process what they've seen when they return to the office. They are probably reassessing their needs for 2019 class. Keep in contact with them on a regular basis if interest remains on academic or athletic news (recent transcript, showcase events, personal best running, lifting , SAT/ACT score, etc. Things will heat up next year, especially  next summer. If your son received an offer, would he be ready to commit? You'll see more peaks and valleys..I know from experience. 

2019Dad posted:
TPM posted:

Give it a few days, this is an NCAA dead period for D1 and D2 baseball which corresponds with NLI signings.

Good advice. Case in point: my son just got an inbound call from an AC who apparently saw him play at an event a couple weeks ago. That was unexpected . . . I'm sure these guys are busy.

Although phone or emails are permitted, coaches use this time to regroup and use the time exclusively for their players which includes finishing up fall practice and feedback.

 

If your son is hitting the ball hard, breaking a 7.0 and is an A student. You really have nothing to worry or fret over. He'll be fine. The right school will take notice. And when they do they'll make their intentions clear.

I understand your frustrations . Try to remember that more times than not these RC's don't do anything until someone moves first. In other words you need an offer to really kick off your sons recruiting .

Once you receive an offer and notify the other schools on your list that you've received that offer and are seriously considering accepting it, your email is gonna light up like a christmas tree.

My son ( 2016) received his first offer in 2014. Prior to that he had emailed UCLA 5-6 times. Nothing. Not a peep. He sent them an email that he'd been offered and was considering accepting....... UCLA responded in less than 10 min. And had him throwing for Savage within 72 hours .

But once again, your son sounds like a solid ballplayer. It's all gonna work out

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StrainedOblique posted:

If your son is hitting the ball hard, breaking a 7.0 and is an A student. You really have nothing to worry or fret over. He'll be fine. The right school will take notice. And when they do they'll make their intentions clear.

I understand your frustrations . Try to remember that more times than not these RC's don't do anything until someone moves first. In other words you need an offer to really kick off your sons recruiting .

Once you receive an offer and notify the other schools on your list that you've received that offer and are seriously considering accepting it, your email is gonna light up like a christmas tree.

My son ( 2016) received his first offer in 2014. Prior to that he had emailed UCLA 5-6 times. Nothing. Not a peep. He sent them an email that he'd been offered and was considering accepting....... UCLA responded in less than 10 min. And had him throwing for Savage within 72 hours .

But once again, your son sounds like a solid ballplayer. It's all gonna work out

I have no doubt that what you are saying here is true...I just find it beyond stupid. Who runs a business or a program this way? Why would you as a consumer want to be a part of this type program? What reasonable expectation would you have that daily operations, after you have signed and are tied to the program would be satisfactory?

I mean honestly when you are dating (rough equivalent of recruiting) you try to but your best foot forward as to who you are...it takes some time to find the bad parts of your partner. This seems like a girl who makes no pretense about being a high maintenance, selfish you know what...but she is hot so I will over look it.  

Maybe I am excepting to much but I would have been hard pressed to want to be a part of a program that operates in that fashion. Maybe that is why my son likes smaller campuses...I don't know all the answers but UCLA would have kicked to the curb in my opinion.

old_school posted:
StrainedOblique posted:

If your son is hitting the ball hard, breaking a 7.0 and is an A student. You really have nothing to worry or fret over. He'll be fine. The right school will take notice. And when they do they'll make their intentions clear.

I understand your frustrations . Try to remember that more times than not these RC's don't do anything until someone moves first. In other words you need an offer to really kick off your sons recruiting .

Once you receive an offer and notify the other schools on your list that you've received that offer and are seriously considering accepting it, your email is gonna light up like a christmas tree.

My son ( 2016) received his first offer in 2014. Prior to that he had emailed UCLA 5-6 times. Nothing. Not a peep. He sent them an email that he'd been offered and was considering accepting....... UCLA responded in less than 10 min. And had him throwing for Savage within 72 hours .

But once again, your son sounds like a solid ballplayer. It's all gonna work out

I have no doubt that what you are saying here is true...I just find it beyond stupid. Who runs a business or a program this way? Why would you as a consumer want to be a part of this type program? What reasonable expectation would you have that daily operations, after you have signed and are tied to the program would be satisfactory?

I mean honestly when you are dating (rough equivalent of recruiting) you try to but your best foot forward as to who you are...it takes some time to find the bad parts of your partner. This seems like a girl who makes no pretense about being a high maintenance, selfish you know what...but she is hot so I will over look it.  

Maybe I am excepting to much but I would have been hard pressed to want to be a part of a program that operates in that fashion. Maybe that is why my son likes smaller campuses...I don't know all the answers but UCLA would have kicked to the curb in my opinion.

The fact is there are well over 1000 players every year that try to get UCLA's attention, they get to be choosy, and they get to be the high maintenance chick in this scenario.

Over the years I have met plenty of "ladies" that give off an ice cold vibe of NEVER being happy and I've seen plenty of "men" eat that crap up and trip over themselves to make her happy. Some guys like that dynamic, to each their own.

The unfortunate truth about recruiting is that there's often a huge gap in the perception of parents regarding their son's production at showcases & tournaments and what college coaches evaluate in a kid. In the most polite way I can put it, going off at a showcase doesn't mean squat if you don't fit what the coaches are looking for. That is not to say your son is not a talented player worthy of playing Division 1 Baseball, but the emotional lens parents see their kids through makes objectivity nearly impossible.

On the flip side, showcases where coaches are paid to attend always have at least a minor buyer beware as just because a coach is physically present doesn't mean they are mentally present.

There's a confounding variable here all of us don't know because the way you described how everything played out shouldn't end up with your son getting zero feedback. 

A couple of points to address from other comments:

 

-All High Academic schools are recruiting the 2019 class right now. Period. Do not believe otherwise. Many Ivies have multiple commits on the board already.

-Patience is critical in the recruiting process but if a school is truly interested, they will 100% contact you and let their interest be known.

 

highheat15 posted:

The unfortunate truth about recruiting is that there's often a huge gap in the perception of parents regarding their son's production at showcases & tournaments and what college coaches evaluate in a kid. In the most polite way I can put it, going off at a showcase doesn't mean squat if you don't fit what the coaches are looking for. That is not to say your son is not a talented player worthy of playing Division 1 Baseball, but the emotional lens parents see their kids through makes objectivity nearly impossible.

On the flip side, showcases where coaches are paid to attend always have at least a minor buyer beware as just because a coach is physically present doesn't mean they are mentally present.

There's a confounding variable here all of us don't know because the way you described how everything played out shouldn't end up with your son getting zero feedback. 

A couple of points to address from other comments:

 

-All High Academic schools are recruiting the 2019 class right now. Period. Do not believe otherwise. Many Ivies have multiple commits on the board already.

-Patience is critical in the recruiting process but if a school is truly interested, they will 100% contact you and let their interest be known.

 

Very good point to make is that coaches do get paid to attend these camps, that's how they make extra money. Also these camps usually are attended by unpaid assistants. 

Make sure that when attending you know who will be there and their title.

Just a suggestion.

fenwaysouth posted:

Old School,

Ah, I caught you.   Applying economic, common sense logic to the recruiting process.  Drop and give me 50!

Image result for old guy doing pushups

 

  

my apologies...we already know common sense left the academic world a long time ago! and honestly Fenway at this point in my life 50 could leave permanent scar!! I would rather send a small donation in the name of college baseball to PETA or some other crazy band of misfits!!

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CaCO3Girl posted:
 

The fact is there are well over 1000 players every year that try to get UCLA's attention, they get to be choosy, and they get to be the high maintenance chick in this scenario.

Over the years I have met plenty of "ladies" that give off an ice cold vibe of NEVER being happy and I've seen plenty of "men" eat that crap up and trip over themselves to make her happy. Some guys like that dynamic, to each their own.

lots of truth here...I have seen the same, I have some business partners who have spent staggering amounts of money on the same "ladies"... due to them being wealthy and horny...and stupid IMO - but it is their right no doubt it.

So we really kind of agree...just maybe we different opinions on what our response would be. I never said it was a right or wrong, just that I didn't get it and gave some, what I consider valid reasons why.

highheat15 posted:

 

A couple of points to address from other comments:

 

-All High Academic schools are recruiting the 2019 class right now. Period. Do not believe otherwise. Many Ivies have multiple commits on the board already.

-Patience is critical in the recruiting process but if a school is truly interested, they will 100% contact you and let their interest be known.

 

Both are true, but being contacted by a school who expresses their interest -- heck being invited on campus for a two-day visit, football game, etc. -- does not mean an offer is forthcoming. I do think there is some truth in Strained Oblique's point about "once you get an offer . . ." 

StrainedOblique posted:

If your son is hitting the ball hard, breaking a 7.0 and is an A student. You really have nothing to worry or fret over. He'll be fine. The right school will take notice. And when they do they'll make their intentions clear.

I understand your frustrations . Try to remember that more times than not these RC's don't do anything until someone moves first. In other words you need an offer to really kick off your sons recruiting .

Once you receive an offer and notify the other schools on your list that you've received that offer and are seriously considering accepting it, your email is gonna light up like a christmas tree.

My son ( 2016) received his first offer in 2014. Prior to that he had emailed UCLA 5-6 times. Nothing. Not a peep. He sent them an email that he'd been offered and was considering accepting....... UCLA responded in less than 10 min. And had him throwing for Savage within 72 hours .

But once again, your son sounds like a solid ballplayer. It's all gonna work out

Thanks for that. My gut tells me it will work out...on its schedule. 

I think most of us have been in the OP's position, where are boy is definitely talented enough to play at a certain level, and for whatever reason, the wheels are not turning on the recruiting front.  It can be maddening!  As several others have stated, once an offer comes in, the news seems to travel so fast. Once one offers, or even just shows real interest, others will follow, because the word gets around.

Agree with Strained Oblique and some of the recent posters. Son's Legion coach filled him in on what was likely to happen with school of his biggest interest. The offer he said may come in a few weeks after a few additional showcases for coaching college recruiting staff. Once Big State U offered, son got offer from school he committed to on very same day after committed school watched him play  in DH.

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