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Originally Posted by RedStitch:
Originally Posted by TCWPreps:
Until Frederick County constructs the 4th high school, IMHO ... Sherando should be moving up to 5A on the next cycle.  With all of that new construction, IMHO ... I don't see how they are going to avoid it.

 

They avoided going AAA several years ago by moving 60 students over into the James Wood zone.  How 'bout that!

So you're saying the Administration and Staff at Sherando should have to deal with a 20% greater student population than the other two Frederick County schools?? 

 

Why????

 

The attendance zones should be redone so that all the schools have the same numbers.  How 'bout that????

 

I have no dog in this particular fight, but I'm curious...

 

Are you suggesting that government bureaucrats should dictate and control the outcome of where it's population lives?  

Originally Posted by GoHeels:
Originally Posted by RedStitch:
Originally Posted by TCWPreps:
Until Frederick County constructs the 4th high school, IMHO ... Sherando should be moving up to 5A on the next cycle.  With all of that new construction, IMHO ... I don't see how they are going to avoid it.

 

They avoided going AAA several years ago by moving 60 students over into the James Wood zone.  How 'bout that!

So you're saying the Administration and Staff at Sherando should have to deal with a 20% greater student population than the other two Frederick County schools?? 

 

Why????

 

The attendance zones should be redone so that all the schools have the same numbers.  How 'bout that????

 

I have no dog in this particular fight, but I'm curious...

 

Are you suggesting that government bureaucrats should dictate and control the outcome of where it's population lives?  

Where you live is where you go to school...at least that's how it works for the public schools.  The "government bureaucrats" set the attendance zones for the school system by where they draw the lines on the county map.  Move the line a mile and you move 50-100 kids. Then the schools would be equally populated.

Originally Posted by RedStitch:

Where you live is where you go to school...at least that's how it works for the public schools.  The "government bureaucrats" set the attendance zones for the school system by where they draw the lines on the county map.  Move the line a mile and you move 50-100 kids. Then the schools would be equally populated.

Correct....but you were suggesting that someone should move the line so that everyone could be equal.  Or "have the same numbers".

 

People do go to school where they live, as you've suggested.  In other words...people chose where to live, based upon where they want their kids to go to school.  I don't care if my children go to a school that is "equally populated" to the others in the city.  I want my kids to go to the right school.  This is why I chose to live here.  

 

Some random person with no skin in the game choosing to move the line for the sake of "equality" is a disservice to those who make the conscious decision as to where they live, for the purpose of education.  What if someone moved from district A to district B to send their kids to XYZ school only to have someone from "downtown" change it. 

 

Perhaps we should have a portable mound that we can move closer for those who don't throw as hard.  Maybe that will level the playing field.

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Originally Posted by GoHeels:
Originally Posted by RedStitch:

Where you live is where you go to school...at least that's how it works for the public schools.  The "government bureaucrats" set the attendance zones for the school system by where they draw the lines on the county map.  Move the line a mile and you move 50-100 kids. Then the schools would be equally populated.

Correct....but you were suggesting that someone should move the line so that everyone could be equal.  Or "have the same numbers".

 

People do go to school where they live, as you've suggested.  In other words...people chose where to live, based upon where they want their kids to go to school.  I don't care if my children go to a school that is "equally populated" to the others in the city.  I want my kids to go to the right school.  This is why I chose to live here.  

 

Some random person with no skin in the game choosing to move the line for the sake of "equality" is a disservice to those who make the conscious decision as to where they live, for the purpose of education.  What if someone moved from district A to district B to send their kids to XYZ school only to have someone from "downtown" change it. 

 

Perhaps we should have a portable mound that we can move closer for those who don't throw as hard.  Maybe that will level the playing field.

For not having a dog in the fight you're doing a lot of barking.  The point I was trying to make, before you went on your rant, has to do with one high school out of three in the system, Sherando, that is at or above capacity.  The other two schools are 200-250 students below that.  If lines were redrawn so that schools are equally populated then you wouldn't have overcrowding at one.  A few years ago, 60 students, who had not yet entered high school, were assigned to go to one of the other high schools.  This alleviated some of the crowding issues and allowed Sherando to stay at the (then) AA level.  One poster had an issue with the fact that Sherando remained at the AA level because of this.  There has been a fourth high school on the books for quite some time with original plans going back to 2010.  Now, that 4th high school is scheduled to open in 2019 in order to help with the overcrowding issues at one school and projected growth at the others.  The school attendance zones will certainly be different then regardless of where you live now.  So, move a few kids around to "even things out" or spend 75-90 million on a new school....which makes more sense??

 

If you're still struggling with this concept, I'll help you move your mound up a little closer.

 

Originally Posted by RedStitch:
 

For not having a dog in the fight you're doing a lot of barking.  The point I was trying to make, before you went on your rant, has to do with one high school out of three in the system, Sherando, that is at or above capacity.  The other two schools are 200-250 students below that.  If lines were redrawn so that schools are equally populated then you wouldn't have overcrowding at one.  A few years ago, 60 students, who had not yet entered high school, were assigned to go to one of the other high schools.  This alleviated some of the crowding issues and allowed Sherando to stay at the (then) AA level.  One poster had an issue with the fact that Sherando remained at the AA level because of this.  There has been a fourth high school on the books for quite some time with original plans going back to 2010.  Now, that 4th high school is scheduled to open in 2019 in order to help with the overcrowding issues at one school and projected growth at the others.  The school attendance zones will certainly be different then regardless of where you live now.  So, move a few kids around to "even things out" or spend 75-90 million on a new school....which makes more sense??

 

If you're still struggling with this concept, I'll help you move your mound up a little closer.

 

No struggle at all!  I understand why school districts move people around...I'm just suggesting that it doesn't work, and it's not right.  A better approach would simply to plan ahead better, and when constructing a new building...build it big enough to account for some level of relative future growth.  In the Tidewater area, in some cities, and certain districts, you will see schools that have been built in the last 0-7 years with a dozen or more portable classrooms.  How is that possible?  You just built the school!!!!!!  Therefore, they move people around.  They will literally bus folks from one side of the city to the other, while passing 2 or 3 other schools on the way.  It's not the "people's" fault that the school districts and their representative municipalities have been poor stewards of their resources. 

 

So, to answer your question...it is cheaper in the long run, to build the school bigger and spend a little extra money today, vs. moving people around periodically, kicking the proverbial can down the road, to spend 2 or 3 times as much in the future.  To me, that makes more sense!  In any case, back to baseball!

 

Best of luck this season!

Originally Posted by GoHeels:
Originally Posted by RedStitch:
 

For not having a dog in the fight you're doing a lot of barking.  The point I was trying to make, before you went on your rant, has to do with one high school out of three in the system, Sherando, that is at or above capacity.  The other two schools are 200-250 students below that.  If lines were redrawn so that schools are equally populated then you wouldn't have overcrowding at one.  A few years ago, 60 students, who had not yet entered high school, were assigned to go to one of the other high schools.  This alleviated some of the crowding issues and allowed Sherando to stay at the (then) AA level.  One poster had an issue with the fact that Sherando remained at the AA level because of this.  There has been a fourth high school on the books for quite some time with original plans going back to 2010.  Now, that 4th high school is scheduled to open in 2019 in order to help with the overcrowding issues at one school and projected growth at the others.  The school attendance zones will certainly be different then regardless of where you live now.  So, move a few kids around to "even things out" or spend 75-90 million on a new school....which makes more sense??

 

If you're still struggling with this concept, I'll help you move your mound up a little closer.

 

No struggle at all!  I understand why school districts move people around...I'm just suggesting that it doesn't work, and it's not right.  A better approach would simply to plan ahead better, and when constructing a new building...build it big enough to account for some level of relative future growth.  In the Tidewater area, in some cities, and certain districts, you will see schools that have been built in the last 0-7 years with a dozen or more portable classrooms.  How is that possible?  You just built the school!!!!!!  Therefore, they move people around.  They will literally bus folks from one side of the city to the other, while passing 2 or 3 other schools on the way.  It's not the "people's" fault that the school districts and their representative municipalities have been poor stewards of their resources. 

 

So, to answer your question...it is cheaper in the long run, to build the school bigger and spend a little extra money today, vs. moving people around periodically, kicking the proverbial can down the road, to spend 2 or 3 times as much in the future.  To me, that makes more sense!  In any case, back to baseball!

 

Best of luck this season!

Wow! I agree with everything you're saying...problem is that progressive thinking, or lack thereof, by the local higher ups in my area is why we are in the position that we are.

 

Best of luck to you as well this season!

Originally Posted by wahoo24: 

MidloDad Benedictine is going to be good but STAB is going to be filthy.  Catcher committed to Harvard, 1B/P to UVA, 2B is a freshman who is a big time prospect, SS/P is a really good player, 3B/P committed to UVA, CF committed to UVA, 2 corner OF's who can really play.  The state runs through Charlottesville for D1 private schools.  

 

This is going to the deepest year in D1 privates in a while.  St C, Benedictine, Collegiate will all be strong from Richmond as well.

Some added information on private school baseball in Charlottesville:

Miller School will have their best team in the history of their program and I would imagine compete for a state title.  They are very deep in pitching with three seniors:  Jacob Rich-Radford,  Mike Dailey-VCU, and  Jack Morris-VA Tech.  The team is solid with the bat and with position players.  They should make some noise in D2.

 

More information to add for STAB:   The two leaders of last year's team are back with both being first team all state last year.   Jake Allen-excellent catcher and committed to Harvard and Parker Morris leading pitcher last year and SS committed to Cornell.  Jalen Harrison UVA committ will play LF and not CF.  Bobby Nicholson had a off year  on the mound last high school season but excelled in the summer with USA Elite.  Bobby should take over the #1 pitcher role from Morris with Morris suffering a arm injury last season prior to state tournament.  Nicholson is also a UVA committ and was 2nd team all state last season--can really hit and is capable of getting his fast ball up to 90-91.   Sophmore Tanner Morris (UVA committ) will play 3B and SS.   Senior Jeremy Benner will pitch and play infield and will be playing baseball next year at Sewanee College.   Senior John Schotta will be holding down centerfield and should be playing at the next level.  Nic Kent is the 2nd baseman and will be the next big recruit to come out of STAB.   Team is very deep however pitching is a concern with the possiblity of Parker Morris not pitching.  Pitching may be the weakest link on this team and we all know how important that is.  Miller may be better with their pitching staff.

Originally Posted by vb_baseballdad:

Any thoughts on Beach schools?

 

I know that Landstown is returning 8 seniors, 4 of them are pitchers. The team has lots of potential and the sky is the limit. It's just a matter of how well they come together.

One would think that if they are a senior laden team, the coming together part should be fairly easy.  The real question is whether or not they are more talented than say....FC or Cox, as they will be fighting those two within their conference.

 

Once out of their conference, they then have to contend with Woodside, Western Branch, and Grassfield if they hope to advance.

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Granby played great last year and not sure of how many returners they will have but should be super competitive because the way they play the game. First Colonial (won Coastal Conference Tourney and went on to play W.B) should be very strong with strong returners and more than a few very good JV players coming up that were promoted during the 2014 season. Cox never looks good on paper but they compete and have 3 good arms. Sleeper may be Landstown with at least two quality arms and Tallwood has an Ace in the younger Lamb but always look out for O.Lakes. Bayside has a new coach who looks to turn that program around. Pick for me is F.C. but State goes through Grassfield or Western Branch! 

Originally Posted by GoHeels:
Originally Posted by vb_baseballdad:

Any thoughts on Beach schools?

 

I know that Landstown is returning 8 seniors, 4 of them are pitchers. The team has lots of potential and the sky is the limit. It's just a matter of how well they come together.

One would think that if they are a senior laden team, the coming together part should be fairly easy.  The real question is whether or not they are more talented than say....FC or Cox, as they will be fighting those two within their conference.

 

Once out of their conference, they then have to contend with Woodside, Western Branch, and Grassfield if they hope to advance.

Does Woodside have the sticks this year to make a run like they did last year?   I ask because I just don't know them that well.   I know they have a stud arm in Moyer but can they put up the runs...?

Originally Posted by BaseballDad757:
Originally Posted by GoHeels:
Originally Posted by vb_baseballdad:

Any thoughts on Beach schools?

 

I know that Landstown is returning 8 seniors, 4 of them are pitchers. The team has lots of potential and the sky is the limit. It's just a matter of how well they come together.

One would think that if they are a senior laden team, the coming together part should be fairly easy.  The real question is whether or not they are more talented than say....FC or Cox, as they will be fighting those two within their conference.

 

Once out of their conference, they then have to contend with Woodside, Western Branch, and Grassfield if they hope to advance.

Does Woodside have the sticks this year to make a run like they did last year?   I ask because I just don't know them that well.   I know they have a stud arm in Moyer but can they put up the runs...?

I honestly don't know them well enough either.  I will see them soon, and can be a better judge.  I recall them having a solid sophomore and junior group last season.

 

Having said that, I feel as though it's going to come down to Western Branch and Grassfield.  I felt that Grassfield was better than Woodside last year, (erroneous mind you!) and I feel the same way this season.  While I haven't seen Woodside yet, I'm fairly confident that they don't have the quality depth on the mound that Grassfield does.  Actually, I'm fairly confident that there are few teams in the state of Virginia that have the quality pitching depth that Grassfield does!  Oddly enough, Woodside is the only team to beat WB, and did so twice...so there's that, I guess.   Of course, that was last season, and we're talking about this season.

 

Generally, Woodside is a quality program, so one would think that they will be a factor.

Last edited by GoHeels
Originally Posted by GoHeels:
Originally Posted by BaseballDad757:
Originally Posted by GoHeels:
Originally Posted by vb_baseballdad:

Any thoughts on Beach schools?

 

I know that Landstown is returning 8 seniors, 4 of them are pitchers. The team has lots of potential and the sky is the limit. It's just a matter of how well they come together.

One would think that if they are a senior laden team, the coming together part should be fairly easy.  The real question is whether or not they are more talented than say....FC or Cox, as they will be fighting those two within their conference.

 

Once out of their conference, they then have to contend with Woodside, Western Branch, and Grassfield if they hope to advance.

Does Woodside have the sticks this year to make a run like they did last year?   I ask because I just don't know them that well.   I know they have a stud arm in Moyer but can they put up the runs...?

I honestly don't know them well enough either.  I will see them soon, and can be a better judge.  I recall them having a solid sophomore and junior group last season.

 

Having said that, I feel as though it's going to come down to Western Branch and Grassfield.  I felt that Grassfield was better than Woodside last year, (erroneous mind you!) and I feel the same way this season.  While I haven't seen Woodside yet, I'm fairly confident that they don't have the quality depth on the mound that Grassfield does.  Actually, I'm fairly confident that there are few teams in the state of Virginia that have the quality pitching depth that Grassfield does!  Oddly enough, Woodside is the only team to beat WB, and did so twice...so there's that, I guess.   Of course, that was last season, and we're talking about this season.

 

Generally, Woodside is a quality program, so one would think that they will be a factor.

Concur on your statements regarding Grassfield pitching.   Pretty loaded.  I know WB will be younger this year and lost a lot of talent from last years loaded roster.  So we will see how it plays out.

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