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Originally Posted by RJM:
Originally Posted by standballdad:
Originally Posted by coach2709:

The thing that I truly don't get is how are you guys breaking buckets while shooting hoops?  I mean I've never seen a bucket break from a 25 feet jump shot with a baseball.  Do you guys even know how to shoot a proper baseketball ball shot?  BTW I got some killer post moves with my back to the bucket.

When you are shooting bricks, it can be tough on the plastic

Shooting bricks? Literally? Or figuratively?

I was trying to be funny (figuratively)

Originally Posted by JCG:
Originally Posted by Soylent Green:

Hoping I'm not included under the "contentious" umbrella... or is any dissenting viewpoint taken as an affront?

 

My reason for responding didn't have anything to do with longevity of buckets... Moreso to do with teaching young men about focus, respect and doing things right.  I mean... What are we really talking about here?  A family man apparently takes his own life... this was related to youth baseball in some way?  And as a result of this tragic event, here are several questionable baseball tenants to live by henceforth... Take your player out of competitive level ball, skip practices, do whatever you feel like when choosing to attend practice, etc.  Hmm... Good luck with all that!

Thanks for this

 

I'm with you. When confronted with inexplicable loss, we look for any lesson we can tease from the void. I get that. But I do not get the connection between this man's suicide and the best practices in running a 12u baseball team.

 

We don't know why this man did what he did.  Depression? Marriage and/or financial issues?  We don't know so we shouldn't judge, though personally I confess a predisposition to label him as a selfish man for leaving behind at least one boy who will be haunted by this  for the rest of his life.  And running the gas tank empty sure sounds like the action of a man who didn't care too much for whoever has to clean up his mess. 

 

I don't know. If anything I see an argument for teaching kids to take care of their own business and not leaving it for somebody else to clean up.  A good baseball program does that.   I think it would also give me one reason to keep going if ever I felt as bad as this guy must have felt.

Cabbagedad said it best that this post is about "Enjoy life every day and don't let it become always overly stressful and goal-oriented, particularly with young kids.  You never know when a given day can be the last. Seek out all the moments of pure joy to share with your kids along the journey."....he gets the intended meaning of this post.

 

The underlines red statements I highlighted above show that you do not get the intended meaning of this post.

 

There are moments in time where a kid should be a kid first and a ballplayer second, and yes, some of those times can actually happen ON A BALL FIELD. 

Originally Posted by Scotty83:
I agree 100% with the premis of the OP. I just diasagree with the advice given to accomplish said premis. Yes parents take youth sports way way to seriously. Yes parents project that on to their children. IMO the original pieces of wisdom, even if you agree with all of them which I don't, are just bandaid fixes. If one wants to solve the problem fix the root problem. If a kid doesn't have have free time for swimming and sleepovers. The root problem isn't a coach banning these activities on game days. It's the fact there are too many game days. The child is playing too much baseball. The problem with free time activities on a vacation while playing baseball isn't the problem. It's the baseball being played on vacation.

Bottom line you only need breaks from something your doing too much of in the first place. For a pro or college or HS with summer and fall ball on top they absolutely need some break time from the grind. A 12 year old. Why the heck are they in a grind in the first place. That's the actual problem.

Well said.  I guess I agree with the OP premise as well... At least in the form it's now been restated by yourself, Cabbage, Bballman and others.  Find balance... Keep perspective... you bet.  I didn't really get that same message from the OP as you guys did and similar to what you stated above... I disagree pretty uniformly with the specific advice offered in the OP.  I agree with the assessment that it's not really a baseball issue, but likely larger and separate issues. It still seems an odd thing to me -- posting about a random, tragic occurrence with no detail or context... And spring boarding this into a list of debatable, at best, advice.  

Originally Posted by standballdad:
Originally Posted by coach2709:

The thing that I truly don't get is how are you guys breaking buckets while shooting hoops?  I mean I've never seen a bucket break from a 25 feet jump shot with a baseball.  Do you guys even know how to shoot a proper baseketball ball shot?  BTW I got some killer post moves with my back to the bucket.

When you are shooting bricks, it can be tough on the plastic

That's how we got our dugouts built 

Originally Posted by TPM:

Now that we got that straightened out,  lets see if the OP takes her own advice given!

You did read the part where I said      "While it is okay to search for information, while it is okay to let them practice what they love, don’t treat your kids like they are pro-athletes, it’s stressful on them and it’s stressful on you, let the kids be KIDS and enjoy them!"

 

I will still be asking questions, BUT my son had a sleep over last Saturday (*gasp* ON GAME NIGHT), he is currently swimming, and I just played the 20 second clip of him I have on my phone of him sliding into home during a rain storm, so I think we are doing well for now.

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