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I posted a copy of this in response to a recent post. Then reconsidered. This deserves its own post!

 

Mike Matheny is the St. Louis Cardinals Manager. He's one of the most well respected people in baseball.  Mike coached his kids after retirement and this is a letter to the parents on his team.  This may be the BEST letter I've ever read regarding youth baseball and parenting

Letter from Mike Matheny.....

I always said that the only team that I would coach would be a team of orphans, and now here we are. The reason for me saying this is that I have found the biggest problem with youth sports has been the parents. I think that it is best to nip this in the bud right off the bat. I think the concept that I am asking all of you to grab is that this experience is ALL about the boys. If there is anything about it that includes you, we need to make a change of plans. My main goals are as follows:

(1) to teach these young men how to play the game of baseball the right way,

(2) to be a positive impact on them as young men, and

(3) do all of this with class.

We may not win every game, but we will be the classiest coaches, players, and parents in every game we play. The boys are going to play with a respect for their teammates, opposition, and the umpires no matter what.

Mike MathenyWith that being said, I need to let you know where I stand. I have no hidden agenda. I have no ulterior motive other than what I said about my goals. I also need all of you to know that my priorities in life will most likely be a part of how I coach, and the expectations I have for the boys. My Christian faith is the guide for my life and I have never been one for forcing my faith down someone's throat, but I also believe it to be cowardly, and hypocritical to shy away from what I believe. You as parents need to know for yourselves and for your boys, that when the opportunity presents itself, I will be honest with what I believe. That may make some people uncomfortable, but I did that as a player, and I hope to continue it in any endeavor that I get into. I am just trying to get as many potential issues out in the open from the beginning. I believe that the biggest role of the parent is to be a silent source of encouragement. I think if you ask most boys what they would want their parents to do during the game; they would say "NOTHING". Once again, this is ALL about the boys. I believe that a little league parent feels that they must participate with loud cheering and "Come on, let's go, you can do it", which just adds more pressure to the kids. I will be putting plenty of pressure on these boys to play the game the right way with class, and respect, and they will put too much pressure on themselves and each other already. You as parents need to be the silent, constant, source of support.

Let the record stand right now that we will not have good umpiring. This is a fact, and the sooner we all understand that, the better off we will be. We will have balls that bounce in the dirt that will be called strikes, and we will have balls over our heads that will be called strikes. Likewise, the opposite will happen with the strike zone while we are pitching. The boys will not be allowed at any time to show any emotion against the umpire. They will not shake their head, or pout, or say anything to the umpire. This is my job, and I will do it well. I once got paid to handle those guys, and I will let them know when they need to hear something. I am really doing all of you parents a favor that you probably don't realize at this point. I have taken out any work at all for you except to get them there on time, and enjoy. The thing that these boys need to hear is that you enjoyed watching them and you hope that they had fun. I know that it is going to be very hard not to coach from the stands and yell encouraging things to your son, but I am confident that this works in a negative way for their development and their enjoyment. Trust me on this. I am not saying that you cannot clap for your kids when they do well. I am saying that if you hand your child over to me to coach them, then let me do that job.

A large part of how your child improves is your responsibility. The difference for kids at this level is the amount of repetition that they get. This goes with pitching, hitting and fielding. As a parent, you can help out tremendously by playing catch, throwing batting practice, hitting ground balls, or finding an instructor who will do this in your place. The more of this your kids can get, the better. This is the one constant that I have found with players that reached the major leagues....someone spent time with them away from the field.

I am completely fine with your son getting lessons from whomever you see fit. The only problem I will have is if your instructor is telling your son not to follow the plan of the team. I will not teach a great deal of mechanics at the beginning, but I will teach mental approach, and expect the boys to comply. If I see something that your son is doing mechanically that is drastically wrong, I will talk with the instructor and clear things up. The same will hold true with pitching coaches. We will have a pitching philosophy and will teach the pitchers and catchers how to call a game, and why we choose the pitches we choose. There is no guessing. We will have a reason for the pitches that we throw. A pitching coach will be helpful for the boys to get their arms in shape and be ready to throw when spring arrives. Every boy on this team will be worked as a pitcher. We will not over use these young arms and will keep close watch on the number of innings that the boys are throwing.

I will be throwing so much info at these boys that they are going to suffer from overload for a while, but eventually they are going to get it. I am a stickler about the thought process of the game. I will be talking non-stop about situational hitting, situational pitching, and defensive preparation. The question that they are going to hear the most is "What were you thinking?" What were you thinking when you threw that pitch? What were you thinking during that at bat? What were you thinking before the pitch was thrown, were you anticipating anything? I am a firm believer that this game is more mental than physical, and the mental may be more difficult, but can be taught and can be learned by a 10 and 11 year old. If it sounds like I am going to be demanding of these boys, you are exactly right. I am definitely demanding their attention, and the other thing that I am going to require is effort. Their attitude, their concentration, and their effort are the things that they can control. If they give me these things every time they show up, they will have a great experience.

The best situation for all of us is for you to plan on handing these kids over to me and the assistant coaches when you drop them off, and plan on them being mine for the 2 or so hours that we have scheduled for a game, or the time that we have scheduled for the practice. I would like for these boys to have some responsibility for having their own water, not needing you to keep running to the concession stand, or having parents behind the dugout asking their son if they are thirsty, or hungry, or too hot, and I would appreciate if you would share this information with other invited guests...like grandparents. If there is an injury, obviously we will get you to help, but besides that, let's pretend that they are at work for a short amount of time and that you have been granted the pleasure of watching. I will have them at games early so we can get stretched and loosened up, and I will have a meeting with just the boys after the game. After the meeting, they are all yours again. As I am writing this, I sound like the little league Nazi, but I believe that this will make things easier for everyone involved.

I truly believe that the family is the most important institution in the lives of these guys. With that being said, l think that the family events are much more important than the sports events. I just ask that you are considerate of the rest of the team and let the team manager, and myself know when you will miss, and to let us know as soon as possible. I know that there will be times when I am going to miss either for family reasons, for other commitments. If your son misses a game or a practice, it is not the end of the world, but there may be some sort of repercussion, just out of respect for the kids that put the effort into making it. The kind of repercussions could possibly be running, altered playing time, or position in the batting order.

Speaking of batting order, I would like to address that right from the top as well seeing that next to playing time this is the second most complained about issue, or actually tied for second with position on the defensive field. Once again, I need you to know that I am trying to develop each boy individually, and I will give them a chance to learn and play any position that they are interested in. I also believe that this team will be competitive and when we get into situations where we are focusing on winning; like a tournament for example; we are going to put the boys in the position that will give the team the best opportunity. I will talk with the boys individually and have them tell me what their favorite position is and what other position they would like to learn about. As this season progresses, there is a chance that your son may be playing a position that they don't necessarily like, but I will need your support about their role on the team. I know that times have changed, but one of the greatest lessons that my father taught me was that my coach was always right...even when he was wrong. The principle is a great life lesson about how things really work. I hope that I will have enough humility to come to your son if I treated him wrong and apologize. Our culture has lost this respect for authority mostly because the kids hear the parents constantly complaining about the teachers and coaches of the child.

I need all of you to know that we are most likely going to lose many games this year. The main reason is that we need to find out how we measure up with the local talent pool. The only way to do this is to play against some of the best teams. I am convinced that if the boys put their work in at home, and give me their best effort, that we will be able to play with just about any team. Time will tell. l also believe that there is enough local talent that we will not have to do a large amount of travel, if any. This may be disappointing for those of you who only play baseball and look forward to the out of town experiences, but I also know that this is a relief for the parents that have traveled throughout the US and Canada for hockey and soccer looking for better competition. In my experiences, we have traveled all over the Midwest and have found just as good competition right in our back yard. If this season goes well, we will entertain the idea of travel in the future.

The boys will be required to show up ready to play every time they come to the field. Shirts tucked in, hats on straight, and pants not drooping down to their knees. There is not an excuse for lack of hustle on a baseball field. From the first step outside the dugout they will hustle. They will have a fast jog to their position, to the plate, and back to the bench when they make an out. We will run out every hit harder than any team we will play, and will learn how to always back up a play to help our teammates. Every single play, every player will be required to move to a spot. Players that do not hustle and run out balls will not play. The boys will catch on to this quickly. The game of baseball becomes very boring when players are not thinking about the next play and what they possibly could do to help the team. Players on the bench will not be messing around. I will constantly be talking with them about situations and what they would be doing if they were in a specific position, or if they were the batter. There is as much to learn on the bench as there is on the field if the boys want to learn. All of this will take some time for the boys to conform to. They are boys and I am not trying to take away from that, but I do believe that they can bear down and concentrate hard for just a little while during the games and practices.

I know this works because this was how I was taught the game and how our parents acted in the stands. We started our little league team when I was 10 years old in a little suburb of Columbus, Ohio. We had a very disciplined coach that expected the same from us. We committed 8 summers to this man and we were rewarded for our efforts. I went to Michigan, one went to Duke, one to Miami of Florida, two went to North Carolina, one went to Central Florida, one went to Kent State, and most of the others played smaller division one or division two baseball. Four of us went on to play professionally. This was coming from a town where no one had ever been recruited by any colleges. I am not saying that this is what is going to happen to our boys, but what I do want you to see is that this system works. I know that right now you are asking yourself if this is what you want to get yourself into and I understand that for some of you it may not be the right fit. I also think that there is a great opportunity for these boys to grow together and learn some lessons that will go beyond their baseball experience. Let me know as soon as possible whether or not this is a commitment that you and your son want to make.

Thanks,

Mike Matheny

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Curious if there are repercussions when he misses or is it just a 1 week street.  That always drove me nuts from being a coach, a parent, observer and as an official.  

 

Love when coaches make the players hustle on and off the field and run out ever ball.  So many teams miss that now.  But then again, I have seen colleges that teach players to slow down, don't run so much and no need to run out all balls.

Good letter.

Most teams my son has played for have had some variation of a letter like this.  

Most coaches don't live up to it.  In fact only one team has really lived up to it....coaches carrying themselves as professionals.  High expectations for the players AND the coaches, striving to improve, showing respect to teammates, umpires and opponents.  His college program was much the same as LL, Babe Ruth ect., say one thing, do another.  

Matheny was a pro so I am sure he conducted a great practice, game and team. 

I wonder if throwing at Ramirez with the intent to injure (in the playoffs) along with throwing at other Dodger hitters plays into his "values".

Originally Posted by OA5II:

Coach has retired so no since in calling him out.  It was weird to see and hear.

 

Maybe I misinterpreted when you said you’d seen “colleges” as opposed to having seen “a college team” teaching that. The 1st thing I did was look to see if you’d posted a location in your profile to see if perhaps what you’d seen was some kind of local thing. But if it’s only 1 coach at one school, I’d just write it off to some oddball coach doing some kind of really unconventional thing.

Originally Posted by Stats4Gnats:

Originally Posted by OA5II:

Coach has retired so no since in calling him out.  It was weird to see and hear.

 

Maybe I misinterpreted when you said you’d seen “colleges” as opposed to having seen “a college team” teaching that. The 1st thing I did was look to see if you’d posted a location in your profile to see if perhaps what you’d seen was some kind of local thing. But if it’s only 1 coach at one school, I’d just write it off to some oddball coach doing some kind of really unconventional thing.

Sorry, the coach who's name I know is retired.  I have seen it at a couple schools in Ark, Kansas and Oklahoma but don't know name of coach.  I love to sit by dugouts to catch chatter if I can; and I saw a kid line out to ss and he ran all the way through the bag.  Heard the coach in the dugout call him a showboat trying to impress "scouts" with running the play out.

 

 I am simple minded, so my writing skills are not great.

Matheny should have passed some of that on to his kid.  His son had probably the worst attitude I have ever seen from a college baseball player during the Super Regional this year.  Argued every borderline call and had terrible body language any time something didn't go his way.  Played the game like a punk.  I could not believe he was never tossed.  In a regular season game he would have been tossed from all three games.  

Originally Posted by OA5II:

Sorry, the coach who's name I know is retired.  I have seen it at a couple schools in Ark, Kansas and Oklahoma but don't know name of coach.  I love to sit by dugouts to catch chatter if I can; and I saw a kid line out to ss and he ran all the way through the bag.  Heard the coach in the dugout call him a showboat trying to impress "scouts" with running the play out.

 

 I am simple minded, so my writing skills are not great.

 

I think you’ve misunderstood. I wasn’t looking for the name of a coach, but rather for the name of a team.

 

To tell the truth, just going by what you’ve written, I’m guessing the coach was having some fun at the player’s expense, and not someone who believed in not running out hit balls. But then again, I wasn’t there and without being either the player being hollered at or the coach doing the hollering, I don’t know. It’s just extremely difficult for me to believe there are actually college coaches who wouldn’t be extremely happy if every one of their players went 100% on every ball they put into play.

 

Originally Posted by IEBSBL:

       

Read the whole book.  That letter is just the tip of the iceberg!


       
I almost fell asleep reading the letter   can't imagine reading the book!  I do agree with the premise that high expectations lead to high performance.  A lot of the rest just seems like nonsense to me.  Parents have been parents since baseball began.  Somehow we still produce great baseball players.  As I have said on here before youth baseball gets a bad rap.  My son has played hundreds of games throughout the midwest.  I have yet to witness a fight between parents or parent/umpire.  Never really even witnessed a parent cussing out an umpire or any of the other things you hear about.  Have I yelled at my son inappropriately a hand full of times over the years?  Yes.  Am I proud?  No.  Have I been sarcastic to an umpire?  Yes.  Do I care?  Not really.  These are grown adults getting paid to do a job.  If the pay is not worth it don't do it.  Have I ever cussed out an ump?  No.  Have I ever cussed out another parent?  No.  Do I cuss a lot in general?  You bet.  Do I say stuff to my kid during games?  Yep.  Do I feel bad about that?  Nope.  Will I stop that when he turns 15?  Yep only because of the stereotype not because I think there is anything wrong with it.  If my son comes up and I want to say "sit dead read and turn and burn"  is that really such a big deal?  I just get so tired of all the constant ripping on youth parents
Originally Posted by 2020dad:
Originally Posted by IEBSBL:

       

Read the whole book.  That letter is just the tip of the iceberg!


       
I almost fell asleep reading the letter   can't imagine reading the book!  I do agree with the premise that high expectations lead to high performance.  A lot of the rest just seems like nonsense to me.  Parents have been parents since baseball began.  Somehow we still produce great baseball players.  As I have said on here before youth baseball gets a bad rap.  My son has played hundreds of games throughout the midwest.  I have yet to witness a fight between parents or parent/umpire.  Never really even witnessed a parent cussing out an umpire or any of the other things you hear about.  Have I yelled at my son inappropriately a hand full of times over the years?  Yes.  Am I proud?  No.  Have I been sarcastic to an umpire?  Yes.  Do I care?  Not really.  These are grown adults getting paid to do a job.  If the pay is not worth it don't do it.  Have I ever cussed out an ump?  No.  Have I ever cussed out another parent?  No.  Do I cuss a lot in general?  You bet.  Do I say stuff to my kid during games?  Yep.  Do I feel bad about that?  Nope.  Will I stop that when he turns 15?  Yep only because of the stereotype not because I think there is anything wrong with it.  If my son comes up and I want to say "sit dead read and turn and burn"  is that really such a big deal?  I just get so tired of all the constant ripping on youth parents

Ditto here.  Now some parents can be a real PIA.  Some really have to understand that at a certain age the kid has to advocate for himself.  But the majority are relatively normal. 

 

Parents should let a Coach coach.  I get it.  But it doesn't give the coach cart blanche to be an idiot. 

You know Golf I just think I have a really interesting perspective on all this.  I am a high school coach and youth/travel ball parent.  Many high school coaches trash travel ball and vice versa.  I think they both have their place. I do not have professional playing experience but know many who do.  I have been around a long time and have heard and experienced the opinions of every possible corner of the baseball world.  Everybody's got a gripe.  We are in a cycle now.where it is just popular to pick on the parents.  We could fill volumes with mistakes and stupid teachings from youth 'coaches'.  And probably almost as many for high school coaches.  Umpires?  Let's not start that one again.  And finally the former pro players some of whom are true experts and students of the game and others who have ten cent brains.    Good and bad in all of us.  If you look for the bad you will find it.  If we just live and let live maybe we will be happier!
Originally Posted by 2020dad:
You know Golf I just think I have a really interesting perspective on all this.  I am a high school coach and youth/travel ball parent.  Many high school coaches trash travel ball and vice versa.  I think they both have their place. I do not have professional playing experience but know many who do.  I have been around a long time and have heard and experienced the opinions of every possible corner of the baseball world.  Everybody's got a gripe.  We are in a cycle now.where it is just popular to pick on the parents.  We could fill volumes with mistakes and stupid teachings from youth 'coaches'.  And probably almost as many for high school coaches.  Umpires?  Let's not start that one again.  And finally the former pro players some of whom are true experts and students of the game and others who have ten cent brains.    Good and bad in all of us.  If you look for the bad you will find it.  If we just live and let live maybe we will be happier!

As my kid has gone thru year 1 of HS, I have seen the HS vs. Travel conflict.  It is most confusing.  It would seem to me they would want to work together to make their programs better.  Because of the HS rules, travel programs generally have more resources and access to the kids. 

 

I have also seen both sets of coaches "attack" parents.  Like you said, it's the thing to do these days.  But here's the thing.  Us parents are significantly older than most of these coaches.  In many cases we have 20-30 years of life experiences.  We have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly over all of these years.  Several have played sports and competed at high levels.  Yet now we are know nothing "idiots."     

 

A great example, now that we are getting into the heat of the summer, is Korey Stringer (the Minn. Vikings player) who died because of heatstroke.  Most of my kids coaches (HS and Travel) where still in diapers at the time.  Yet they still want to be "tough guys."  I learned from it.  Have they?   

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Parents are the ones who spend the tremendous time and money to get their sons to the ball fields.  I think they have a right to an opinion.  Tonight my son, (2019) loafed to first base on an infield pop up.  The coach didn't see it but I did and I made sure to make it clear, after the game, that I was not happy.  I don't care how well or badly he does on the field as long as he is giving it 100%.  He has tremendous talent and I support him but I cannot tolerate  loafing.  Does that make me a bad baseball parent?  If so I will live with it. 

Originally Posted by too.tall:

…Tonight my son, (2019) loafed to first base on an infield pop up.  The coach didn't see it but I did and I made sure to make it clear, after the game, that I was not happy.  I don't care how well or badly he does on the field as long as he is giving it 100%....

 

Absolutely nothing wrong with a parent setting standards for his/her children and having a punishment/reward system in place. What you’re talking about is “hustle”, and there’s a standard in baseball about it. There’s certainly a lot of rhetoric about players busting their a$$ to 1st base every time they hit the ball. Most call it a Hard 90.

 

The Urban Dictionary defines a Hard 90 as a term used in baseball to describe a sprint from home plate to first base. The distance between each base is 90 feet. That seems to be the standard you used when you saw your son “loafing”. Many folk like myself who got to see Pete Rose play a lot saw what many consider to be the standard. After all, how many players sprint to 1st base after drawing a walk?

 

But how realistic is it to expect a Hard 90 from all players anytime they complete an at bat? In my experience, about the only time I EXPECT to see a Hard 90 is when a ball is hit in the infield and the batter is either trying to get an infield hit or not be doubled up. I also EXPECT it when a ball is hit to the OF and there’s a good chance the batter can get more than one base.

 

under what circumstances wouldn't you run full out to first?  Any infield hit, even a grounder back to the pitcher a kid should be running as fast as they can.  I have seen plenty of bobbles...any outfield hit because I have seen routine fly balls dropped and why not go for he extra base, dropped third strike,  One of the few times a kid wouldn't run full out, that I can think of is a walk or hbp

Originally Posted by Stats4Gnats:

 

But how realistic is it to expect a Hard 90 from all players anytime they complete an at bat? In my experience, about the only time I EXPECT to see a Hard 90 is when a ball is hit in the infield and the batter is either trying to get an infield hit or not be doubled up. I also EXPECT it when a ball is hit to the OF and there’s a good chance the batter can get more than one base.

 

100% realistic and expected. I understand you follow a currently sub-par HS program. That might explain why you see it the way you do.

Originally Posted by JLC:

under what circumstances wouldn't you run full out to first?  Any infield hit, even a grounder back to the pitcher a kid should be running as fast as they can.  I have seen plenty of bobbles...any outfield hit because I have seen routine fly balls dropped and why not go for he extra base, dropped third strike,  One of the few times a kid wouldn't run full out, that I can think of is a walk or hbp

 

I want to first make it abundantly clear that I believe if every batter leaving the batter’s box and heading for 1st went full out, it would be a very good thing. However, it really is dependent on the level.

 

ML hitters aren’t expected to bust their arse on routine fly balls or grounders because there’s almost as much chance they get hurt as there is the ball isn’t going to get played. The lower the level, the more chance that isn’t true.

 

Next comes real fly in the ointment. Who’s gonna be the judge as to whether a player is “loafing”? Of course a parent can do it because parents are the ultimate authority, but when it comes to something having to do with the team, player performance rests entirely with the head coach/manager. If that thinks you were loafing, you were loafing.

 

I’m one of those guys who wants to know what the rules are so I can look at the facts and make a valid judgment, so here’s what I did when I got curious about what was actually happening as opposed to what people THOUGHT was happening. I got a stopwatch and timed hitters in games!

 

What I found out very quickly was that the situation had a lot to do with how much effort the batter put into running to 1st, and those situations were generally hits, outs, and ROEs. In my small sample, invariably the fastest times were when the batter reached on an infield error and the slowest times were on routine outs.

 

Before you make any judgements yourself about your child or the players on his team or peer group, I strongly suggest you do what I did. Measure contact-2-contact, or when the bat contacts the ball until the batter’s foot contacts 1st base. Not only will it get you some very interesting information, it’ll keep you bizzy!

 

What I found is in the attachment.

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Originally Posted by ironhorse:

100% realistic and expected. I understand you follow a currently sub-par HS program. That might explain why you see it the way you do.

 

FYI, for the 8 years preceding 2015 I scored for a team that was often ranked in the top 100 teams in the country, and that’s where I did my research, where the numbers I posted came from, and where I came to “see it the way I do”.

 

Although I didn’t log and track players from other teams, I did time them on occasion and let me tell you, good team bad team, great players or poor, the paradigm I saw was pretty much the same for everyone. Maybe you think you child or your teams would show the same thing for whatever reason. If that’s true, I invite you to do what I did and prove what I saw was a total aberration.

 

 

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