Playoff Craziness

Matt is 100% correct. There is NO WAY this should have been overturned. It was a judgment call based on HS rules. The MLB rules don't apply here. It blows my mind how people do but understand the rule book. You can't pick and choose which rules you think should be applied. And yes I DO believe politics came into play this morning. I don't have a dog in this fight, but GHSA opened a can of worms. The biggest problem is the winner will be screwed due to finals on Friday. There is no way they can navigate pitching a game on Wednesday and expect to compete at their best with another series starting 2 days later. 

Matt13 posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:

I don't think it had to do with feelings, and I don't think it had to do with the area the teams are from.  It boiled down to did the umps make a mistake that changed the result of the game, they are human, it happens.  At the end of the day I think a 3rd game was the best compromise for all involved however, I sincerely doubt that group of umps will see the field for the rest of THIS year.

There was no mistake (maybe judgment, but that's not protestable.) The umpires applied the rule correctly, and are getting thrown under the bus.

The GHSA has violated its own policy in this.

From what I have read John's Creek didn't want to go into the finals with people questioning if they should be there.  They wanted game three as much as Lee did. The video is compelling and the reason Lee said it didn't matter is also compelling, according to Lee's coach the HP umpire yelled "ballgame"...while he thinks his player touched third he's saying it shouldn't have mattered.

CaCO3Girl posted:
Matt13 posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:

I don't think it had to do with feelings, and I don't think it had to do with the area the teams are from.  It boiled down to did the umps make a mistake that changed the result of the game, they are human, it happens.  At the end of the day I think a 3rd game was the best compromise for all involved however, I sincerely doubt that group of umps will see the field for the rest of THIS year.

There was no mistake (maybe judgment, but that's not protestable.) The umpires applied the rule correctly, and are getting thrown under the bus.

The GHSA has violated its own policy in this.

From what I have read John's Creek didn't want to go into the finals with people questioning if they should be there.  They wanted game three as much as Lee did. The video is compelling and the reason Lee said it didn't matter is also compelling, according to Lee's coach the HP umpire yelled "ballgame"...while he thinks his player touched third he's saying it shouldn't have mattered.

??  I think you have your teams backward.

Also, irrelevant whether HP ump called ballgame or not.  Appeal limit on a game ending call expires when the umpires LEAVE the field, not whether one of them called ballgame or not.  The appeal was made within the allowed timeframe.

noumpere posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:

according to Lee's coach the HP umpire yelled "ballgame"...

There's no mechanic to do that, it doesn't mean anything if it's done, and here's one reason not to do it.

A person quoted on another discussion board that it's actually a rule in GA that the ump can't call the game unless all runners have advanced to their next base.

and yes, got the schools backwards but you get my drift.

CaCO3Girl posted:
noumpere posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:

according to Lee's coach the HP umpire yelled "ballgame"...

There's no mechanic to do that, it doesn't mean anything if it's done, and here's one reason not to do it.

A person quoted on another discussion board that it's actually a rule in GA that the ump can't call the game unless all runners have advanced to their next base.

and yes, got the schools backwards but you get my drift.

IT's true that all the runners are required to advance in HS ball (that's NOT true in OBR).

 

But, the umpire shouldn't announce, "Ballgame" when the game is over -- because, as we see here, it might not really be over.

 

Just watch the run score, the other runners advance (or not) and leave the field.

Here's a great article on the topic.  Amazing that they admit that they're overturning a judgement call (5 days after the incident) and that is sets an "uneasy precedent".  That's an understatement.

What's really amazing to me is the thought process.  

“If it’s the second inning of a baseball game or second quarter of a football game, you’ve got plenty of time to overcome a bad call,’’ White said. ‘’This situation is a different. It’s a semifinal state playoff game in baseball, and it’s the end of the game. I just see that differently. That had lot to do with swaying my opinion.”  

So basically saying that the importance of getting calls right vary based on when in the game the calls occur.  This guy is a clown.

http://highschoolsports.blog.a...game-3-on-wednesday/

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