Proving an old coach wrong!!!

Not saying it will be easy but please re-read the posts in this thread.  Everyone has the same advice.  Everyone has been in a similar situation with people who have done them wrong for no good reason.  It happens and it will happen again.  Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond.

Re-read.  Re-read again.  Decide who you want to be. 

 

Best to you.

lol wut

Well, in Dad's defense his highly ranked team had just suffered an embarrassing loss to a bunch of short chubby guys swinging wood.  Classic case of taking an opponent too lightly.

 

Definitely something to be learned there. 

I know you are not going to like this, but you will never get passed Juco if you dont let it go.

Baseball players have to have short memories. You dont seem to have one.

 

Best of luck.

Jeez, man, LET IT GO. You're going on to play college baseball and he's fat. The fact that you're still carrying this brick around means he's winning.

 

The day you get over it you win. Until then he's still he's still impacting your life. 

I have been following this for a while.  The one thing that keeps coming back to me is why local juco bullpen if you are throwing 85-86 consistently?  I read that as cruising there so maybe topping out at 87?  88?  That's well beyond local juco velocity unless you just happen to live near one of the big time jucos.  Is this velo a recent gain?  Are there serious control issues?  Or a lack of a second and third pitch?   This has just been bothering me.

I'm sorry if it bothers you but this is rather irrelevant. Yes I'm playing for a juco, and this is Arizona, where juco talent is the upper echelon of most jucos in the country. I do not feel I need to justify my baseball endeavors in this particular post, as it is irrelevant to the initial post. I came here to seek advice, and I am seeing that perhaps just letting it go, forgiving, and moving on is simply the best policy. But thanks for your input.

       
       
so I ask you a question and I get a rather terse response.  You really do need to control your emotions.  As a legendary college coach always said "a pitcher shows no emotion".  I tell my son that always.  You are very easily rattled.  You need to work on that.  Good luck.

I was cut my freshman and sophomore years of HS by a coach I despised.  I was known as a trouble maker and for getting into fights.  My Junior year, I made the varsity.  However, the coach that cut me could not let it go.  He made fun of me and had all kinds of things to say.  One time I ran into a fence, made a catch, got a bloody nose and he said I looked like a "cartoon."  I hated him.  Then, I realized one day that I was giving him too much power over me.  I played because I loved playing.  I made that catch because I was a hard charger.  Instead of spending time hating him, to me he didn't exist.  I really treated him that way.  Oh, I'd do what he told me but I would not show him any emotional response.  Several years later, I was giving a speech at a baseball coaches clinic up North and he was there.  I went over and said hey and we had a good time talking about my HS team and my Varsity Coach.  You have to let it go man!

Why is where I play, velocity, role, etc. even relevant in this case? That's just my question. Why do you assume that I have no control or secondary pitches, when you don't even know who I am? Why are these questions even being asked? I love how you're saying I'm getting rattled. 

Go to your happy place, man.

Fly, I think you need to take a step back and look at this.  While 2020 asked a question that does not really have much bearing on the discussion he may have been asking to point out something based on your response.   

 

Based on your response I have to agree, you have a lot of growing to do in this area.  If you are letting this question and response bother you it says a lot about how you deal with your anger.  Allowing your emotions get the better of you will not serve you well in the long run.  Either in baseball or in life.  Your young yet, but learning how to keep your emotions in check, throttle down your ego and take the high road will serve you much better then jumping all over someone and seeking out revenge.

2020Dad asked questions and didn't make assertions.  You came here asking for advice.  You are getting it.  To take these questions and then fly off like that to someone who is responding to you may be the exact same reason you are in this situation.  Since you are headed to a JUCO, you're old enough to start being an adult.  When I was your age, I was in a factory on midnight shift as a welder and going to school during the day.  Be thankful of what you have been given.  Let it go. 

 

When you stated you wanted to hit the coach's son for what the coach did to you, imo, that said a lot about you.  Grow up!  One other thing, since you need to hear this young man, what is the purpose of telling all of us how obese the coach is?  It really has nothing to do with the story.  Yet, you pointed it out several times.  That type of personal attack shows a lot about character.  JMHO!

 

Darrell Butler

Hi guys,

 

Just an update on this. Well first off I'd like to say that there was no confrontation, no fights, and the coach didn't say one thing about me, at least to my knowledge. I didnt ask, I didn't care.

 

However, today when I was pitching, I did let the past and his presence get to me today. I threw 2 innings, the first one was money as I went in the game in the 5th. 7 pitches, was throwing gas, 1-2-3 inning. When I went back out for the 6th, I really let the game get away from me. I was really thinking way too hard about proving that man wrong, and that inning was literally, an abortion. Walked guys, got hit around, etc. Ended up giving up 6. 

 

Anyways, yeah, you guys are right that I do need to learn to not let the past get to me, which it did today. I am rather annoyed with myself, that today, he was right about me. Everything he said was right about me, at least for today. I'm rather annoyed with myself that I work very, very hard and today I just didn't have it today. I'm sad that I gave him the satisfaction today that he was right about me all along.

 

Anyways, time to move on. I won't be seeing him for a while as we don't play them again, and his son goes to school out of state. Thanks for the advice guys. Hope I can get a short memory and be prepared to throw again this weekend. Plenty of more opportunities ahead and this is not the end goal. But I guess I should probably change the title of this post to proving an old coach right, LOL.

 

I apologize to 2020Dad for getting feisty.

I hope that you let today's experience teach you a very big lesson.

And I think you owe an apology to those you didn't like advice that was given to you.

You should have listened to them.

Fly,

I hope you are able to do what you are saying.  It isn't easy.  All I can say is that having been around baseball with my sons for what is now our 17th season the greatest amount of talent in the world won't help much if you aren't mentally strong.  As my son's pitching coach says, the most important pitch is the next one.  Flush it and move on.  You can practice that in your real life.  It doesn't matter what others say about you if you know it isn't true.  They can sling crap all they want and the only person they will get it on is themselves if you refuse to participate.

Best advice i could give you -  Briancain.com

 

Just go there and buy almost anything. Best Mental Coach out there. I don't work for the guy. It directly deals with exactly what we're talking about here. Just give it a look.  Trust me.

Thanks guys, one of my coaches suggested Cain's work to me as well. I just bought his CD and book. And it's not that I refused to listen, it's that it just overcame me. I tried to control it as much as I could. I tried not to let it affect me, but it did. I mean, I am still disgusted with myself, that I proved him right. He told me to hang up my cleats, that I'll never amount to anything, that I shouldn't be playing baseball, and I feel like he was right all along. I am sad that he is probably at his house right now with a big ol' smile on his face, satisfied that he got his way. And I'm here miserable... I'll get over it.

Fly, that coach is probably not even thinking about you at all.  My guess is he has totally forgotten about all this.  By you thinking that he is still obsessed with you, you're still letting him control you.  And one bad outing does not mean you should hang your cleats up.  It means you had one bad outing.  

 

You need to get over the bad outing AND you need to forget about this coach.  I hope the material you went out and bought helps you.  

bballman is correct, do you think this guy has a thought in his brain about you.

You need to take ownership, this guy didn't mess you up, you messed yourself up. Learn to control your emotions and learn to forgive. It will set you free.

Enough with this self pity, grow up!

What will prove him right, if he is thinking about you, is if you hang up your cleats now.

 

If you love baseball, you won't hang up your cleats, and you'll figure out a way to grow from this.  It's obvious that you're not afraid to ask for help; you came here for some.  That tells me you're bright enough to work your way out of this.

 

Quit on your own terms, if you're gonna quit.

The bully rarely ever remembers.  You have to know he was wrong, realize telling him or showing him wont do any good, and just know you were right all along.  Quote from a movie:

Shen: How did you find peace? I took away your cleats! Everything! I scarred you for life!

Po: See, that's the thing, Shen. Scars heal.

Shen: No they don't. *Wounds* heal.

Po: Oh, yeah. What do scars do? They fade, I guess?

Shen: I don't *care* what scars do!

Po: You should, Shen. You gotta let go of that stuff from past, because it just doesn't matter! The only thing that matters is what you choose to be now.

Shen: You're right. Then I choose *this*!

[Shen attacks Po with his knives; they fight until Shen accidentally dislodges his destroyed cannon and is crushed by it]

Haters gunna hate. Old saying,but still appropriate and true. The best players in every town have taken playing time from several players in their career. They have parents, many who are less than gracious.Use it as motivation and please leave it there. Play well and please act like you have been there before.