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I recieved an email from a D1 school and I want to know if its real interest or if im just in a mailing list. I went to a showcase a couple weeks ago and just got this email yesterday. The title is "personal invitation from coach x" and it says they are very impressed and want to invite me to a camp this winter. One session is only $75 and tops at 30 players but they have 6 sessions over 2 days. The coach knows me because he talked to me at the showcase about 2 guys he worked with that went to my school. I kind of think its mass mail because the email says they are inviting me to a pitching camp but Im not even a pitcher (they have 2 sessions of pitching fielding and hitting). What do you guys think, this is real interest or I should ignore it?

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I'm gonna guess it's a mass email....mostly due to the fact that they have your position wrong.  I guess I would say this....are you interested in the school?  Is the school at somewhere you realistically have the skills to play at?   What did the coach say at the showcase?  Did he say anything about what you did....or just talk about the other kids he knew from your school?   If he had anything good to say about you, I would probably go if it's workable with your schedule...the price is reasonable enough...especially for small group sessions.  The fact that he has at least spoken to you is a plus...again, especially if he noticed anything at all about you at the previous showcase.

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I would suggest you forward their camp invitation e-mail back to them, with a forwarding note asking if this was intended for you and if so, did they mean to invite you to the position players camp, as you are not a pitcher. 

Please choose your words carefully so as to present this as you being genuinely unclear as to whether the invitation might not have been intended for someone else -- a case of mistaken identity.  The key is not to come across as irritated or impertinent.  You want to sound interested, but basically asking to be invited to the correct camp.

Your hope would be to generate a more individualized reply from them, that might illuminate you more as to where you truly stand. 

But again, you won't get that if your note sounds like, "Hey dummies, I'm not a pitcher!"  Anything that gives a whiff of that attitude will risk doing permanent harm to your prospects.

I find that most teenagers are accustomed to approaching adults familiarly, and it comes as quite a surprise to them to discover that most coaches get prickly when this happens.  It's understandable, because many of these players have been told over the years, e.g., to address their coaches by their first names.  But however understandable it may be, it's wrong.  The social convention is that minors are to address adults by their surnames (Mr. Smith or Coach Smith) unless and until the adult explicitly invites the young person to address them more familiarly.  And this rule applies on an adult-by-adult basis, which means that just because lots of adults are OK with the player being familiar doesn't mean that the next one will be, or even that he should be.  That decision is the adult's to make.

When I tell players this, they often say things like, "Well that's just stupid."  Meaning, they intend to just keep on speaking to adults as if they (the players) were the adults' equals.  My reply to that is to explain that, whether they like it or not, societal conventions have been developed over centuries by billions of others, and the rest of the world is not going to change to suit them.  So if they want to have the system work for them, they'd best get used to the idea that they are in a subordinate position in this universe.

Treat this like you are applying for a job, and you therefore expect to address your future boss with total respect.  If you are experienced doing this, great.  If you are not, then until you get the hang of it, write your own e-mails but ask a parent to check them over before you click the "send" button.  It's a fine line you're walking here, so you need to tread lightly so that you move up on their list, instead of ending up scratched off it.

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Your name and name of the showcase easily fits into a form letter. “Liked my skills” is too generic to be personal. My son once received this kind of letter after he registered and paid but did not attend a showcase. I believe others on this board have had the same experience. 

@JARS2001

My son received a similar email from a D1 school. The email also addressed him by name and mentioned the specific showcase and went on to say how they were "impressed by his recent performance at XYZ showcase", without getting into any specifics. Fwiw, it was sent by the school's volunteer asst. coach that had attended the showcase. My son recalls no conversation with the VAC while there.

Also, check the font used for your name vs the font used in the body of the email. Are they the same font and size? My son has received several "personalized" sounding emails where schools blow it by messing up the mail merge - including the one from the D1 school referenced above.

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Midlo Dad posted:

I would suggest you forward their camp invitation e-mail back to them, with a forwarding note asking if this was intended for you and if so, did they mean to invite you to the position players camp, as you are not a pitcher. 

Please choose your words carefully so as to present this as you being genuinely unclear as to whether the invitation might not have been intended for someone else -- a case of mistaken identity.  The key is not to come across as irritated or impertinent.  You want to sound interested, but basically asking to be invited to the correct camp.

Your hope would be to generate a more individualized reply from them, that might illuminate you more as to where you truly stand. 

But again, you won't get that if your note sounds like, "Hey dummies, I'm not a pitcher!"  Anything that gives a whiff of that attitude will risk doing permanent harm to your prospects.

I find that most teenagers are accustomed to approaching adults familiarly, and it comes as quite a surprise to them to discover that most coaches get prickly when this happens.  It's understandable, because many of these players have been told over the years, e.g., to address their coaches by their first names.  But however understandable it may be, it's wrong.  The social convention is that minors are to address adults by their surnames (Mr. Smith or Coach Smith) unless and until the adult explicitly invites the young person to address them more familiarly.  And this rule applies on an adult-by-adult basis, which means that just because lots of adults are OK with the player being familiar doesn't mean that the next one will be, or even that he should be.  That decision is the adult's to make.

When I tell players this, they often say things like, "Well that's just stupid."  Meaning, they intend to just keep on speaking to adults as if they (the players) were the adults' equals.  My reply to that is to explain that, whether they like it or not, societal conventions have been developed over centuries by billions of others, and the rest of the world is not going to change to suit them.  So if they want to have the system work for them, they'd best get used to the idea that they are in a subordinate position in this universe.

Treat this like you are applying for a job, and you therefore expect to address your future boss with total respect.  If you are experienced doing this, great.  If you are not, then until you get the hang of it, write your own e-mails but ask a parent to check them over before you click the "send" button.  It's a fine line you're walking here, so you need to tread lightly so that you move up on their list, instead of ending up scratched off it.

Midlo I agree - this is a polite and respectful way to communicate that can only help the OP and any young player/person on this board for that matter.  Even in my late 40s I still find myself addressing my friend's parents as Mr./Mrs. LOL!  And I do involuntarily bristle a bit when a young person (e.g. friend's children in their teens) calls me by my first name.  Not a big deal in the scheme of things -- but it just doesn't feel right?  I'm sure to many others it doesn't matter.  But when seeking consideration from a decision maker, why take the chance?

Sorry for the hijack just wanted to say I like this advice!

Why overanalyze what may or may not be an initial email? Is it a school you are interested in? Is it a camp you are interested in? If it is, email back. Ask questions, try to start a conversation. Maybe it is a mailing list, but if it's a place you might want to be, find a way to make a connection and move past the mailing list.

 

I think you are over complicating things.  Do you like the school?  Did you like the coach?  Is the camp close and inexpensive?  Do you want to go?  Who cares if it is "real" interest or not, go and MAKE them interested.  Worst case you get more practice at showcasing your skills to an audience.  Best case scenario he wrote your name down on his showcase notes but forgot why so he invited you to the camp because he wanted to see you again, and this gives you the chance to see the schools facilities.

my 2019 received a email from a TOP Sec school last week about camp info. funny thing when you hit reply on the email it would auto gen the baseball director, so we added the RC email, and asked if they were still looking for my sons position and year along with my sons video link . I didn't think he would get back, but he did the next morning. We engaged in convo about the camp , and he said he would love to see my 2019 this winter.  not sure if we will take the drive since the camp is not a cheap one and a 2 day camp, but it was interesting to have the RC reply back and fourth .  my 1.5 cents 

My son got a "personal" camp invite last month from the RC of the school he's already committed to. He's still on their mailing list apparently. You want to see some handiwork, I can show you the football recruiting mailer he got from Wisconsin asking him to attend their kicking camp. (he hasn't played football since freshman year) - full color folder with nicely embossed lettering, and it included what looked like a handwritten letter in ink by the coach. Not sure if they have a special printer for this, or if they hire students with impeccable handwriting  to write personalized-looking letters!

KilroyJ posted:

My son got a "personal" camp invite last month from the RC of the school he's already committed to. He's still on their mailing list apparently. You want to see some handiwork, I can show you the football recruiting mailer he got from Wisconsin asking him to attend their kicking camp. (he hasn't played football since freshman year) - full color folder with nicely embossed lettering, and it included what looked like a handwritten letter in ink by the coach. Not sure if they have a special printer for this, or if they hire students with impeccable handwriting  to write personalized-looking letters!

Kilroyj's post here say's it ALL about email and recruiting ....This post deserves it's own thread. Something like "The Truth About Email And Recruiting "

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