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Ball is hit to right field, right fielder is camped under it but misplays it (in and out of the glove)...Runner on 3rd tags and scores.   If it had been an out, the batter would sit down and the sac fly wouldn't count against the batting average correct?  But since the right fielder misplayed it, the batter is safe on first, the runner on 3rd scores, and the play (which becomes a reached on error) does count negatively against the batting average correct?  So, the batter is not penalized on his AVG if he's successfully out, but is penalized on his AVG if he is fails and is safe?  I know that's playing with the words..just thinking it through.

 

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Originally Posted by 2018_Dad:

Ball is hit to right field, right fielder is camped under it but misplays it (in and out of the glove)...Runner on 3rd tags and scores.   If it had been an out, the batter would sit down and the sac fly wouldn't count against the batting average correct?  But since the right fielder misplayed it, the batter is safe on first, the runner on 3rd scores, and the play (which becomes a reached on error) does count negatively against the batting average correct?  So, the batter is not penalized on his AVG if he's successfully out, but is penalized on his AVG if he is fails and is safe?  I know that's playing with the words..just thinking it through.

 

by the way, love the forum.

Judgement call but if RF is camped under ball, and ball is deep enough (would have scored on catch, fielder could not have thrown out runner) then it's scored SF9; and also E9 in book for allowing baserunner to reach, (0 for 0 batting average; 0 for 1 on base % w/ SF). Routine play not deep, & runner would not have scored or would have held up, it is a straight E-9 (0 for 1 in AB).

Originally Posted by Ripken Fan:
Originally Posted by 2018_Dad:

Ball is hit to right field, right fielder is camped under it but misplays it (in and out of the glove)...Runner on 3rd tags and scores.   If it had been an out, the batter would sit down and the sac fly wouldn't count against the batting average correct?  But since the right fielder misplayed it, the batter is safe on first, the runner on 3rd scores, and the play (which becomes a reached on error) does count negatively against the batting average correct?  So, the batter is not penalized on his AVG if he's successfully out, but is penalized on his AVG if he is fails and is safe?  I know that's playing with the words..just thinking it through.

 

by the way, love the forum.

Judgement call but if RF is camped under ball, and ball is deep enough (would have scored on catch, fielder could not have thrown out runner) then it's scored SF9; and also E9 in book for allowing baserunner to reach, (0 for 0 batting average; 0 for 1 on base % w/ SF). Routine play not deep, & runner would not have scored or would have held up, it is a straight E-9 (0 for 1 in AB).

Very informative.  Thanks for the reply to the OP.

FWIW - Most scoring issues are actually covered by the OBR.         

 

In this case it is 10.09 (e) 2.  The definition also includes running catches by outfielders and infielders.

 

The correct ruling as described is SF/ RBI and E9 for reaching.  The only issue is if in the judgement of the scorer the runner scores on the catch. 

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