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This is a link to an article about a HS kid drafted by the Braves who signed a pro contract, was at their facility for a week, then left to attend a community college.  I was under the impression that this wasn't even possible...

 

http://www.dailyfreeman.com/sp...er-community-college

 

BASEBALL: Kingston High graduate Pat Dorrian leaves Atlanta Braves, will attend Herkimer Community College

 

 

The recent Kingston High graduate and Freeman Player of the Year recently left the Atlanta Braves organization and will attend Herkimer Community College in the fall.

Dorrian was selected by the Braves in the 12th round of the MLB amateur draft on June 7 and signed with the team on June 26. Since he was a minor at the time of his signing, Dorrian’s parents were required to sign the contract. He turned 18 a day after the signing.

He reported to the Braves’ Class A Gulf Coast League team in Kissimmee, Florida shortly thereafter but left the squad after a week.

In a tweet on July 5, Dorrian, who could not be reached for comment, said, “... I’m coming home. Not the right time for me yet, my time will come.”

According to a recent story on the Braves’ official website, Dorrian was listed as the team’s highest selection not to sign. Dorrian was released from his contract to become eligible to play in college.

Dorrian, who had committed to attend National Junior College Athletic Association Division I powerhouse Iowa Western Community College before he signed with Atlanta, chose to attend Herkimer. Iowa Western had won three of the past four NJCAA Division I national championships.

Herkimer placed third in this past season’s NJCAA Division III nationals.

On July 15, Herkimer coach Jason Rathburn announced Dorrian’s decision to attend Herkimer in a tweet. “Herk commits Atl 12th RD pick INF Pat Dorrian from Kingston! Welcome to the family @patdorrian Pat will also play basketball at Herk.”

Dorrian hit .356 for Kingston this season, with 26 hits, 19 runs, 16 RBI, six doubles, six triples, one home run and 12 stolen bases. He also served as the Tigers’ closer and had two saves with a 2.33 earned-run average. In addition, he was named a District 1 All-American by the National Baseball Coaches Association. The recognition meant he was chosen as one of the top 15 players in the New York-New England area.

Dorrian was a three-sport standout at Kingston. He was named the Freeman basketball Player of the Year in 2014 and was a first-team Freeman All-Star in football.

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Originally Posted by RJM:

The rules for JuCos and NAIA schools are not the same as NCAA schools. What those differences are I don't know. This is a job for Three Finger. Shine the Bat Light and maybe he will respond. 

 

Ha ha ha 

 

Yeah, someone with a special skill will be needed to figure this one out.  

 

I'm also curious what effect, if any, it would have on his ability to transfer to a NCAA school after a year or two of the JUCO.

 

Its nice to see a rule with some common sense,  at least the kid isn’t punished for signing and changing his mind.  I bet those 1st couple weeks away from home were a real eye opener for him.  I hope he excels as a student athlete.

 

 

 

 

 

Section 11.     RULES GOVERNING THE AMATEUR STATUS OF STUDENT-ATHLETES          

Amateur athletes are those who engage in sports for the physical, mental or social benefits they derive in participation and to whom athletics is an avocation and not a source for personal financial remuneration. Whenever the amateur status of a student-athlete is questionable and before competition begins in an activity sponsored by the NJCAA, it is the responsibility of an administrative officer of the college where the student-athlete is enrolled to clear the status of the student-athlete in question. In determining amateur status of student-athletes, the following guidelines have been established.

  1. Student-Athletes are Permitted To:
    1. Accept scholarships and educational grants-in-aid from their institution in accordance with the provisions of Article VIII of the bylaws of the NJCAA.
    2. Officiate sport contests, providing the compensation received does not exceed the going rate for such employment.
    3. Serve as coaches or instructors for compensation in a physical education class outside of their institution provided the employment is not arranged by the student-athlete's institution or a representative of its athletics interests.
    4. Serve as paid supervisors of children's sports programs, such as counselors in a summer camp, or in a recreation department program. Their duties may include teaching techniques or skills in their sport, provided that any instruction is a part of the overall terms of employment (teaching and coaching shall not exceed more than half of their employed time) and not on a fee-for-lesson basis.
    5. Participate in professional baseball for no more than ninety (90) days at a level no higher than Class A. If this can be confirmed by the National Association of Professional Baseball Leagues, the student-athlete shall be eligible to compete in baseball at an NJCAA member college. Any participation beyond the first ninety (90) days shall cause a student-athlete to be ineligible in the sport of baseball.
    6. Participate in women's softball if the women were involved in the Professional Softball Association and have been reinstated by the appropriate amateur governing body.
    7. Have their names or pictures appear in books, other publications, or films without jeopardizing their amateur status, but only under the following conditions:
      1. Appearance in such publications or films is for the purpose of demonstrating athletic skill, analysis of a sports event, or instruction in sports.

 

A player may go to school if his contract is voided within a certain time frame? I do believe that NCAA D1 rules do not allow for him to attend one of their programs?

 

Parents of players or players that want to start their pro career after HS, do your homework and understand exactly what it will entail, for most it is playing at a spring training complex in the back fields. If the player gets a nice bonus life can be a lot easier for the player.

 

First year my son was drafted he had to come back to Jupiter, he had a roommate out of HS who signed for 15K.  He cried every night before he went to sleep, never expected to have to get up at 6am, play games at 1pm in 90-95 degree heat with no one watching and nothing to do in the afternoons.

 

Be careful what you wish for!

In all three NCAA divisions, a player who signs a professional contract loses his amateur status, and is consequently ineligible for inter-collegiate athletics in the same sport.  However, the Committee for Student-Athlete Reinstatement may restore a player's eligibility if the circumstances warrant it.

 

I believe restoration of eligibility is more likely at the D2 level than in the other two divisions, but it only happens rarely.  In the situation mentioned here, the player was not yet 18 when he signed, left nearly immediately, and has the opportunity to demonstrate academic success and desire at a JC.   He might have a better chance of getting reinstated because of those factors.   Of course, the NCAA question may not arise if he does well in baseball at the JC.

Originally Posted by J H:

#5 in mmm1531's post sums it up. It's happened occasionally in the past as well.

 

The Braves train at the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex at Disney World, not in Kissimmee. 

 

Best of luck to this young man.

 

  1. ESPN Wide World of Sports
  2. Address: 700 S Victory Way, Kissimmee, FL 34747
    The complex is within the City of Kississmmee, Osceola County jurisdictional limits.Disney World sprawls around mostly Orange County in the Reedy Creek Improvement District, a Disney controlled jurisdictional entity.
     
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