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^^^Agree with you Innocent Bystander.
My take on Tebow is that he did not ask for all of this attention regarding his faith. But the great thing is that he has not backed down once the attention came. It doesn't seem that he let it go to his head. Instead, he continues to be strong even when people make fun of him (SNL, Jimmy Fallon)and the "experts" criticize his play.
Isn't that something that most of us probably try to teach our own kids? I can't tell you the number of times I have told my kids to be strong when others make fun of you, be confident, don't let your success or the attention go to your head, etc. I wish they could be more like Tim Tebow. I have a little time to work on it, but not much! Smile
With Brandon Spikes back and reasonably healthy the Patriots returned to playing the 3-4 defense they abandoned this year to accomodate Albert Haynesworth. The last game against the Broncos the Patriots went 3-4 in the second period and a 16-7 deficit turned into a 41-13 win.

Tebow doesn't impress me as a quarterback. But I was impressed he demanded to stay in the game despite getting the heck beat out of him. In the fourth quarter Quinn was warming up. Tebow has the wind knocked out of him and got his shoulder banged up.

This post game interview is more impressive: since a lot of my charity work revolves around underpriviledged and disabled kids:

Yes, he referenced Zach McLeod, the 20-year-old Cambridge resident who is recovering from a severe brain injury. Tebow, who met with the young man before the game, said, “I’m a little disappointed we weren’t able to win tonight. We played a great team and they played well and you have to give them a lot of credit. Still, it wasn’t a bad day. It still was a good day because before the game I got to spend some time with Zach McLeod and make him smile, and when you get to do that it’s still a positive day and it’s still a good day.

“Sometimes, it’s just hard to see but it depends on what lens you’re looking through. I choose to look through those other lenses and got to make a kid’s day. And any time you do that it’s more important than winning the game. So I am proud of that.”
There's no question of his competitiveness, toughness, leadership skills and all the goodness and it's better than the Vicks of the NFL but unless he becomes a real NFL QB, he won't last. What I am impressed with is he'll do whatever he has to to try and win a game and if he's coachable, he can probably learn to become a legitmate NFL QB. But right now, he's not a good QB.
I think that is what makes him so impressive, even on a bad day at the office he found good in it.

He's not a quitter for sure, and I have never heard a bad word about anyone or anything out of his mouth.

IMO, it wasn't an impressive day for the coaching staff of the Broncos. I think that TT did the best he could with what he was told to do. Keep in mind that they lost a key player before the game.
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I think that is what makes him so impressive, even on a bad day at the office he found good in it.

He's not a quitter for sure, and I have never heard a bad work about anyone or anything out of his mouth.

IMO, it wasn't an impressive day for the coaching staff of the Broncos. I think that TT did the best he could with what he was told to do. Keep in mind that they lost a key player before the game.
Every team is missing players at the end of the season. Most players are playing hurt. It's why getting the bye is so important. Ask the Saints.

The Patriots had 120 transactions this season manipulating their way through injuries. It was the most in the NFL. The Patriots are missing two veteran offensive linemen. They're missing three of their four outside pass rushers. They're missing one of their starting corners. Fortunately they got back two of their hitters last week in Spikes and Chung. Hitting is contagious.

Some Tebowistas have complained he hasn't been allowed to throw enough. He dropped back over thirty times last night. Look what happened. Twelve teams are going to be examining the game video of this one. The twelve teams who play the Broncos next year.
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Originally posted by Doughnutman:
He had a great run. What is there, 28 other teams that would gladly trade places with the Broncos right now? I guarantee you Rothesberger from Pitt would.

The kid won. He made the playoffs and won a game. Only a select few quarterbacks are in that club. I expect him to come back stronger next year and then win the Senate seat from FLA in 2018. The kid is a winner.
Is he still a winner on the field next year when the Broncos go 6-10? Their schedule is brutal, not the cupcake schedule they had this year. I would be willing to bet he's not the starter by the end of next season.
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Tebow was good for a league that got off to a rocky start last season. He made a lot of people lots of money. He's good for business.

The Broncos have to commit either way as to their game plan.

Who knows what next year will bring, things happen, things change. Whoever thought that Pujols would be wearing a different uni this season.

It's all how some see it, I can see the positive in this story when most people are very negative about athletes. It's about looking through a different lens, I suppose.

I like to be around positive people, it doesn't matter to me what God they worship to.

igball, we agree!!!!!
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Originally posted by PGStaff:
Gronkowski is just unbelievable. Tom Brady is one of the best QBs ever. Lots of great players. Belichik is one of the best coaches ever.

I will continue to pull for Tebow because I think he is a great example for many young people.
If Brady can get one more Super Bowl win the Montana-Brady debate starts. The stories are similar. Neither were top pro prospects. Different eras make it hard to compare stats. Belichick hasn't developed the successful coaching family tree Walsh created. Gronkowski is the John Mackey of his era (based on season, not career).
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Whether he takes another snap is almost irrelevant.


I'm not sure the ones running the Broncos feel that way given all the loot he's guarenteed. They'll also have to commit to running a high school offense to get whatever they can from Tebow if they consider him the franchise player. All I know, if I were a Broncos fan, I wouldn't be too happy right now knowing Tebow is the direction they're going in. Although I'll bet Elway wants to get a real NFL QB running the offense.

When the Broncos finish 6-10 or 4-12 when they have to play a tougher schedule next year, the Tebow fad will wear off real fast. Losing will do that.
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Eli Manning has been a great story this year. Being asked by knucklehead reporter and radio host Michael Kay if he considered himself an elite QB.

Of course Eli answered he was and being a SB MVP, he was justified by saying so and of course the media ran crazy with it. What else is he supposed to say? The media loves baiting because Eli is as laid back but fierce competitor there is.

Turns out Eli more than backed it up ad was able to win a Division title and move on to the next round of the playoffs with a maligned team thru most of the year and is on the verge of possibly getting to another NFC Championship game. That's a story. New England slapping around the Broncos and Brady doing what he does..That's a story.

I think it's safe to say that many would love to see a Patriots/Gianrs rematch in the Super Bowl and couls very well happen. This Tebow stuff is dead now.
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I don't care much about football---what impressed me about Tebow is that he made me want to watch his games and get interested in football again.

I've read a number of the links to stories about him and his positive behaviors, especially around sick and/or disabled people.....what REALLY impresses me about him is that he is 24 years old.

The maturity and grace that he has is totally amazing to me. He is 24 years old. 24. Wow.

Talk about someone who has made a difference in the world--he has. I hope he is able to do that for a good long time.
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Originally posted by Pop Up Hitter dad:
The next thing we'll see is a Satan worshiping QB.

The anti-Tebow?

Sounds like a good movie.
Satan came and went. It was Kenny Stabler. Stabler lived large. Had he played in NY he would have been more legendary than Namath.
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Can we put a "fork in it" on this Tebow discussion? I think he is a fine upstanding young man, and I'd have no objection if my kids hung around him. As for his religuous beliefs, they are HIS religous beliefs and none of my business. His religion has nothing to do with his public job as a professional athlete. As for his QBing & decision making, he has a long way to go.

I hope Tebow succeeds because he is a max effort guy, and I like max effort guys. Denver is "done like a dinner". Most of us saw the game or heard about it.

Can we move the discussion to relevence.....talk about Brady, Manning, Smith and Flacco?
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I just listened to a news report on the commercial done during the Broncos-Patriots game by Focus on the Family, having a bunch of cute kids quoting John 3:16, which reportedly has been the #1 search term on the internet over the past week. Sure beats people surfing for a lot of other things.

Tebow wasn't mentioned.

I'm sure folks will howl over the commercial that wouldn't mind at all if the lingerie bowl were advertised, or how great it is to drink some more Bud, or whatever.

The baseball link to all of this? It opens up a world of marketing opportunities for every foul line that is 316'. Smile
I believe in Tim Tebow, by Rick Reilly

I've come to believe in Tim Tebow, but not for what he does on a football field, which is still three parts Dr. Jekyll and two parts Mr. Hyde.

No, I've come to believe in Tim Tebow for what he does off a football field, which is represent the best parts of us, the parts I want to be and so rarely am.

Who among us is this selfless? con't...
A few years ago, during season, son led a group of his teammates to the childrens Hospital. One of the patients, recovering from a tumor the size of a grapefruit in his chest (he actually had to have most of the chest wall removed and plates placed in which have to be replaced each year as he grows).

My son told me that his mom told him that he walks 2 miles everyday to get stronger, on his own and has been cleared to play contact sports. His mom called up the next day to say how inspired her son was to have the players come see him, my son actually said that he was confused, that the player was inspired as it seemed to him it was the other way around.

I get it.

We've known about Tebow here in FL for many years, now the rest of the country is finding out, and many understanding why they erected a statue of him up at UF, not just because of his athletic accomplishments, but personal achievements as well.

It's a good story.
Media information about the silent off field actions of athletes like Tebow can be wonderful.
I have been following this one between Justin Blackmon and Olivia Hamilton for several months, since I first saw it on Outside the Lines.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7023005

Made it tough for me to root too hard against the Cowboys when Oklahoma State played Stanford in the Fiesta Bowl...knowing Olivia was in the stands almost at the end of her treatments and Justin still standing with her.
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Teaching Elder posted:

I have to admit it.  The Mets are ruining baseball.  They have gotten advanced A pitchers to let Tebow improve his stats against them and look much better over the course of a month.  https://www.usatoday.com/story...ent-surge/491632001/

They will be corrupting MLB pitchers by the end of the season. 

You are in the wrong Tebow thread.  Last post before yours was 5+ years ago.

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