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I thought I had read on this board that an umpire's authority stop at the fences meaning an umpire dors not have the authority to eject a fan....I think the discussion was around an umpire in the minors that eject a music guy for playing " three blind mice" after a close call

 

can an umpire eject a fan for shouting at a player? Not debating if the fan should have been kicked out for foul language directed at a player but I was thinking secruity would do that and an umpire could not do that

 

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Originally Posted by dad43:

Might of got umpire mixed up...and not saying Fan did not deserve to be booted just thought an umpire could not eject a fan thought their authority stop at the "fence"

 

 

Not an umpire, but my understanding is that the umpire's authority does stop at the fence, but if there's a disruption outside the fence that is affecting the game he can ask game officials to deal with it. If game officials can't or won't, the umpire can suspend the game.

Originally Posted by JCG:
Originally Posted by dad43:

Might of got umpire mixed up...and not saying Fan did not deserve to be booted just thought an umpire could not eject a fan thought their authority stop at the "fence"

 

 

Not an umpire, but my understanding is that the umpire's authority does stop at the fence, but if there's a disruption outside the fence that is affecting the game he can ask game officials to deal with it. If game officials can't or won't, the umpire can suspend the game.

This is correct at most levels.

 

In pro ball, there's a bit more of a, how can I say it, situational impact on what umpires can do and can't do. In this case, from the reports I've seen, this guy was doing it for a while. To me, that speaks to stadium personnel not doing their job, and an umpire thinking that someone is going to have to play the role of the authority figure to tell them that this is out of hand. While not disruptive in and of itself, I'm sure MLB has no problem with him protecting a relatively-family-friendly atmosphere.

 

In NCAA and FED ball, I'm having this guy removed before he gets the second sentence started, based on what I saw he said. In FED, this is a double-whammy: profanity and directed at a specific participant. In NCAA, we let a little bit more go, but once it reaches the level of being obscene, we can intervene as I stated before.

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Originally Posted by dad43:

I thought I had read on this board that an umpire's authority stop at the fences meaning an umpire dors not have the authority to eject a fan....I think the discussion was around an umpire in the minors that eject a music guy for playing " three blind mice" after a close call

Difference is that we do have authority over team personnel, of which the organist (or PA guy) is a member.

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