Velocity Increase

#1 Assistant Coach posted:
2019Dad posted:
bacdorslider posted:

are these cruising numbers?

Nope. Top velo on that particular day (just like a PG or PBR headline number). Like RealGreen's, my son's numbers are also in games, including scrimmages. Son's HS varsity has a Stalker Pro and charts every pitch in a game or scrimmage (though they do not use radar for JV or frosh).

FWIW, and I don't know if this is generally true but it has held for my son so far -- a new top velo, which is an outlier at the time, becomes more "normal" as he continues to develop. For example, this past February he pitched in a varsity scrimmage and threw one pitch at 86, but otherwise his high that day was 84. Now some time has passed, and 86 is normal -- on Saturday he threw 13 fastballs and I think 86 was the velo on 5 of them. So now 90 is an outlier for him (the next highest pitch on Saturday was 88). So it seems like there's a jump, and then sort of a catch-up period.

I don't know if I'm explaining it well, or if you have seen that with any of your sons' development.

Explaining it very well, '19Dad.  RHP son has added 2 mph each year the past couple years.  I see it in the summer time as that is when he focuses on pitching workouts most.  One year's "touch" velo becomes next year's sitting velo.  Hoping he's got at least a couple more of those years in him.

I would concur as to my '18's progression. He seems to sit where his previous seasons peak was. He's added 15lbs since July and T93 last summer! Here's to continuing the trend!

If a pitcher throws one legitimate pitch 90 some MPH, it means he is capable of throwing that velocity again. That is a good thing, but It doesn't mean he will average that velocity in the future, but it is possible.  Truth is you can pretty much bet you weren't lucky enough to see a pitcher on the very best day of his life, or worst day for that matter.  So you could assume that pitcher is capable of doing better.  And with any young pitcher you can assume he will get better as well as add some velocity in the future.  Gains in velocity can be very different from one pitcher to the next. We have seen very large gains in one year or even less.  We have also seen very small or even no gains in one year or more.  Also each pitcher is different when it comes to the timing of these increases in velocity.  For some it could be a steady climb over four or five years.  Some make major improvements at different ages.  Some don't develop their top velocity until college years.  Others have reached their limit by age 16 or 17. 

What I'm trying to say is that it doesn't matter what happened with one pitcher, there is no average that means anything. Because it has no bearing on what might happen to a different pitcher. It is kind of like the average age of everyone, has no bearing on how old you are.

The thing to watch out for is that one pitch that is 3-5 mph or better than the second best reading.  This is usually a case where the radar has picked up the ball off the bat.  It happens quite a bit and can get parents excited and even angry when they see their son wasn't recorded at 96 mph or whatever velocity.  They seem to think that really happened because they saw the radar reading.  They don't consider that his highest pitch other than that one 96 was 85 mph.  I'm sure most people on here understand that, but you would be surprised by how many don't.

Here's an example. The pitcher here threw one inning. As you can see, his third pitch was a gb out that probably left the bat at 90mph. He ends up getting credit for a 90 on PG and is being touted locally as having touched 90. BTW, no way can PG catch all of these. I only caught it because I was watching the game and know the kid.


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