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We have often discussed that the life of a college baseball player is intense and that it is challenging to attend to baseball, academics and still have a robust social life. I thought it might be productive to list the various majors these baseball playing kids take in college in order to give HS parents a feel for how the process unfolds.

(So, I'll start.)

Preliminary major (pre-matriculation): chemistry.

Final Major: economics (floated a trial balloon after fr year for sociology which we shot down).

Baseball team predominant major: economics (4/8 players).

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My son is going Economics (liberal arts school, so that is as close to business/finance he can go) but keeping the door open for political science (depending on how hard Econometrics is for him!).  I think he will do fine with Econ.

Funny story, though.  One of the upperclassmen on the the team has this great line.  When he hears about freshmen or sophomores who want to major in engineering, or pre-med or the like, he says "Oh...so you are a pre-Poli Sci Major"?  I just love that line.

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My son's is probably more of what Goosegg wanted to see illustrated as a "don't do this" precaution...

Keep in mind, early on, baseball drove the bus...

JC - general ed with a Sports Management major in mind

D2- switched to Business.  School didn't have a Sports Management major

NAIA- switched back to Sports Management and now taking 24 units this semester to finish his degree a year after playing his fourth year of eligibility

Now, he's actually looking at grad school, so some academic focus came around eventually. 

Most of sons college was paid for by Clemson and the Cardinals. Too bad that he never got to enroll in his intended major, engineering, but that is ok.

Took him 12 years to graduate from start of college to graduation,PRTM with minor in event management. His office has been on a baseball field since 2007. 

I don't recommend this path for everyone, but it worked for him and he loves every minute of it, most of the time. 

 

Sports Management. Baseball is definitely driving the bus as Cabbage put it. May not be the path for all, but I want him “all in” as long as he desires to chase the baseball dream. I’m fortunate to be in a position to allow this. I’ve told him as long as he is working and making progress up the ladder I’ll help support the dream. Obviously an endpoint will come, I just haven’t set those parameters. He is ahead as he went 2 summers while rehabbing. So while he is a RS Sophomore, he will finish classes next fall. A lot will depend on the 2018 draft. 

Mine is doubling - finance and management at an Ivy.  

Several business related majors on the team.  Some economics, which is actually not in the business school (its part of the College of Arts/Sciences), and several guys are PPE (Philosophy, Politics and Economics) majors.  I can think of a couple of engineering majors, but the number is certainly smaller.

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Goosegg - Great topic for a thread.  There are two things that I believe most recruits don't fully understand until they are actually doing it.  Lots of due diligence is needed for both.  The first is how competitive it is to get playing time for a college program anywhere, anytime.  The second is how impactful their major can have on their 4 years while playing a college sport.   Some D1 programs will try to dissuade a recruit from a particular major or not recruit them at all.    We experienced both during the recruiting process until my son finally committed.  I know you know that, but wanted to share with the wider audience.

My son attended a D1 High Academic school.  Went in a mechanical engineer and graduated with a Mechanical Engineering degree, and is currently working on an Advanced degree.  Overwhelmingly, most of the players on his team were business majors in the College of Arts and Sciences.   Some played summer college baseball and all of them  interned on Wall Street by their junior/senior years (winter).  My son interned for engineering positions during the summer, and that is were he landed his first job (division of GE) out of school.  There were a handful of engineers on the team during his 4 years, and most of them were pitchers.  I only recall one engineering major who was a position player.  May God have mercy on his soul.

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HitRunThrowCatch posted:

Having been 30 years since college, why is Econ major so popular with scholarship athletes?

Maybe the initial responses are from parents of top academic kids. I’m sure it is where the same posters mention teammates majoring in engineering. Economics is not an easy major. It was my major because I found math easy. My concentration was quantitative analysis. It was essentially calculus. My son chose it for the same reason. At his college it was called quantitative analytics. Buc’s response is another reason. It’s as close to business/finance as you get at a liberal arts college. 

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I was going to tabulate the responses, then add a questionnaire breaking down divisions in a later thread. Didn't want to get into a "where did your kid go to school" scenario.

As to the Econ question, my wife was an Econ major and it was my minor. The rigor has changed over the years as data, quantitative analysis and computers have been added to the equation.  Way different than last century. Today's Econ majors can head straight into the financial sector - investment and merchant banking, wealth and asset management, consulting (whatever that means for someone who has no practical experience straight out of school), government, etc.  The ability to analyze and manipulate data (which is what is at the foundation) seems to be sought after - currently.

At S's school, econometrics was the weed-out course. (Also the multi semester calculus requirement was somewhat of a hurdle.)

Shoveit4Ks posted:

Mine is majoring in Baseball with a minor in sports communications. We do have a few on the roster at Clemson who are majoring in Engineering but as TPM said, most are taking less rigorous majors and focusing on baseball while chasing the dream.

Lol. Dont worry, mine did the same.

Goosegg posted:

I was going to tabulate the responses, then add a questionnaire breaking down divisions in a later thread. Didn't want to get into a "where did your kid go to school" scenario.

As to the Econ question, my wife was an Econ major and it was my minor. The rigor has changed over the years as data, quantitative analysis and computers have been added to the equation.  Way different than last century. Today's Econ majors can head straight into the financial sector - investment and merchant banking, wealth and asset management, consulting (whatever that means for someone who has no practical experience straight out of school), government, etc.  The ability to analyze and manipulate data (which is what is at the foundation) seems to be sought after - currently.

At S's school, econometrics was the weed-out course. (Also the multi semester calculus requirement was somewhat of a hurdle.)

I too was an econ minor a hundred years ago when doing my undergrad degree.  To further Goose's point, the Econ major is evolving.  Some schools are converting it to a STEM major, which apparently has immigration visa implications.  

http://www.thedp.com/article/2...iladelphia-visa-work

 

Ryno is an Accounting Major, and as another poster mentioned, he needs 150 credits to sit for the CPA Exam.  As a transfer from JC to his current school, he has several credits that did not transfer.  However, they will count towards the 150 credits, so he is very lucky.  Accounting is a demanding degree at his school, and honestly, the majority of the kids take the same degree:  Organizational Leadership.  

Great topic and great for future members to review.

Seaver jr. started as a chemical engineer and will graduate in the fall as one.

His teammates are primarily engineering majors...he goes to this decent engineering school in Cambridge, MA so having a bunch of engineers isn't a surprise...it's actually the name of their team

 

I would add that for parents who are researching this topic, you can do a lot of your own due diligence by going to the team web site, looking at the roster, and then looking at the players' majors (some times you need to click through the players bio pages to find the major).  My son and I did a lot of that research because he was determined to find a school that offered Engineering majors and find a baseball program where there were a fair number of kids on the team who were majoring in Engineering or other demanding STEM subjects.  Not surprisingly, it was pretty hard to find a match.  But there are some solid academic schools out there where it is an option to do both. As Fenway noted in his insights into an Engineering degree, it helped my son that he is a Pitcher Only, but the demands on his time from the baseball team are still substantial. 

Doing the roster research first will help avoid some wasted time on visits.  Some coaches may say they permit STEM majors, but looking at the actual roster will tell you if that is really true or not.  And for the majors with lab requirements, be sure to check school class schedules to see if labs are offered in the morning or evenings.  Afternoons are not an option unless you have a very supportive coaching staff and teammates who are willing to let a player miss practice for a lab.  Better to do all of the research ahead of time than wind up in a place where the academic interest does not match up with the demands of playing college baseball.

rynoattack posted:

Ryno is an Accounting Major, and as another poster mentioned, he needs 150 credits to sit for the CPA Exam.  As a transfer from JC to his current school, he has several credits that did not transfer.  However, they will count towards the 150 credits, so he is very lucky.  Accounting is a demanding degree at his school, and honestly, the majority of the kids take the same degree:  Organizational Leadership.  

Friends son played at ND, was red shirted a year, opted for the 5 year program in accounting.  Graduated in 4 years with BS in Accounting, played his last year of elgibility while pursuing his Masters in Accounting, and I think he picked up his CPA as part of that Masters program (not totally sure about that).  Quickly picked up a job at a top tier investment bank as an analyst.  

Kind of cool way to leverage a red shirt year...

 

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I've watched this thread, having nothing to contribute, until it got to the bottom of the thread pages.  I have to ask...what about education majors?  I couldn't believe that wasn't mentioned once in this thread.  My son is interested in becoming a math teacher. As I watch the amount of teachers dwindle across every state, especially in the math and science areas, I have to say I think it is a great choice for him.

CaCO3Girl posted:

I've watched this thread, having nothing to contribute, until it got to the bottom of the thread pages.  I have to ask...what about education majors?  I couldn't believe that wasn't mentioned once in this thread.  My son is interested in becoming a math teacher. As I watch the amount of teachers dwindle across every state, especially in the math and science areas, I have to say I think it is a great choice for him.

My son played 4 yrs at an ACC school.  Of all of his teammates, I only recall one that was an education major.  After 3 years of teaching, that guy is now working on getting onto the administration track because the teacher pay scale is so bad in South Carolina.  

You're absolutely right, we certainly need more kids to go into education.  But, that doesn't happen very often at Power 5 schools.  However, from what I have seen it does seem a little more common at smaller D1 and D2 schools.  

From what I have seen, the percentage of kids taking more demanding vs. less demanding majors fluctuates substantially.  When my son played, 2009-2012, around half of the team majored in subjects like like business, construction science, health management, math, finance, etc.  The other half were in the traditional athlete majors, parks & rec and communications.   I just looked at the breakdown of the current roster.  Things have changed considerably. Now, probably 90% of the kids are in less demanding majors.  My guess is this is just cyclical, and will shift back to more of a 50-50 split in the coming years.  But, I guess it could be reflective of the regime change that took place after son graduated.  

CaCO3Girl posted:

I've watched this thread, having nothing to contribute, until it got to the bottom of the thread pages.  I have to ask...what about education majors?  I couldn't believe that wasn't mentioned once in this thread.  My son is interested in becoming a math teacher. As I watch the amount of teachers dwindle across every state, especially in the math and science areas, I have to say I think it is a great choice for him.

Probably mostly a numbers game. The most recent numbers available show that women still represent 80% of undergrad Education degrees earned. I'd like to see more male teachers. I hope that works out for your son.

MidAtlanticDad posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:

I've watched this thread, having nothing to contribute, until it got to the bottom of the thread pages.  I have to ask...what about education majors?  I couldn't believe that wasn't mentioned once in this thread.  My son is interested in becoming a math teacher. As I watch the amount of teachers dwindle across every state, especially in the math and science areas, I have to say I think it is a great choice for him.

Probably mostly a numbers game. The most recent numbers available show that women still represent 80% of undergrad Education degrees earned. I'd like to see more male teachers. I hope that works out for your son.

That did not occur to me, thank you!  I hope it works out for him too, anyone that can maintain a 95+% average in geometry of all things should figure out how to teach that crazy subject.  I went very far in math and even I struggled with Geometry

CaCO3Girl posted:

I've watched this thread, having nothing to contribute, until it got to the bottom of the thread pages.  I have to ask...what about education majors?  I couldn't believe that wasn't mentioned once in this thread.  My son is interested in becoming a math teacher. As I watch the amount of teachers dwindle across every state, especially in the math and science areas, I have to say I think it is a great choice for him.

Good point.  I don't recall any listed on the Purdue Roster, but I could have missed one.

RJM posted:
HitRunThrowCatch posted:

Having been 30 years since college, why is Econ major so popular with scholarship athletes?

Maybe the initial responses are from parents of top academic kids. I’m sure it is where the same posters mention teammates majoring in engineering. Economics is not an easy major. It was my major because I found math easy. My concentration was quantitative analysis. It was essentially calculus. My son chose it for the same reason. At his college it was called quantitative analytics. Buc’s response is another reason. It’s as close to business/finance as you get at a liberal arts college. 

I would also add that there are generally no labs required in Econ!

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