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Recently a post similiar to this was on here and I almost piggybacked on that one but decided against it.   What would you do?  Here is the question:  2019, RHP, 6' 3", 175 lbs, 88 mph (PG), was the go to guy in highschool ball in spring (but coach never over used), as soon as that season finished played on a college showcase team where he would pitch 5-6 innings (averaged ~60-65 pitches) a week on a weekend trip to various colleges (fun but nobody saw him).   Also did one PG tournament with this team (got a nice write up in the PG tourn. blogs).  This was almost every weekend June through mid July.  As soon as that ended picked up by a travel team to play at PG WWBA 16 (the most productive 30 pitches of the whole summer), and PG 16 U Championships in ATL.    Has been invited to play on that same travel team for fall with a few "warm up" tournaments before going to Jupiter.     Contact: 1 mid/upper D1 via travel coach.     This would be an easy decision if he were a position player.  But as a pitcher in order to be at the top of his game, he will have to start throwing and ramping up AGAIN this year in the next few weeks to be ready for the fall season.    One other important thing to know is that we are in a warm weather state so  his highschool season (practices) will begin in January.   So he basically was pitch ready for about 7 straight months.   Knock on wood....no injuries, but over the summer would definitely need rest/ice, etc... between starts.    He/we are leaning toward complete shut down and hitting the gym, running, etc...  to get ready for a very important spring/summer 2018.  WHAT WOULD YOU DO??  

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RHP at 88 mph is right on the cusp of bigtime D1 and pro ball interest as you seem aware.  6'3" and 175 is a projectable size

I would absolutely shut him down and not do Fall Ball or Jupiter.   Give him a good 3 months of no throwing.   Hit the gym, run, improve his lower half strength etc.... the rest plus training to get bigger stronger will give him his best shot at adding the 3 to 7 mph that will really open up his future bigtime, as well as give him the best shot at staying healthy throughout 2018 which is fundamentally the most important thing

Different strategies for the fall are appropriate for different players depending on their circumstances. 

What would his reasons be for pitching this fall? Does he expect to do better than he did this spring and summer? Does he think his recruiting options will expand if he does the same thing he did this summer in front of a wider audience? Is he itching to measure himself against better competition?

Are those reasons more important than using the fall for arm rest and conditioning?

You already laid out the case for what you think your son needs to do.

Best wishes,

 

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For me, I would ask myself the following...

"What's best for his development at this time?"

He's gotten considerable exposure.  More innings of exposure may come at a cost to his arm health as well as potential mental fatigue.  This leads me to a second and related question:

"What's best for my son's mindset?"

I always thought it interesting that between high school and college ball, I took less time off and had less time off than when I started playing pro ball.  Grant it, the season in pro ball is a grind but shutting him down could allow for a mental break... not to mention could be a good time to get his body assessed for muscular imbalances.  After a while the repetitive nature of the game will create imbalances.  This fall/winter could be great to get his body and mind back in balance and ready for January.

All the best to you and your son.

 

 

You guys are great!  This is the best resource by far for parents who have high school baseball players!!  I guess my question/dilemma all is a result of early recruiting/committing.  He has friends who played all summer at PG ATL and are committing.  We feel we should have done this but instead did the college showcase tour instead.  Swampboy....one and only one reason is for more exposure.   Competition wise he faced some of the best there is at PG.  Backpick thank you for PM.  I think we will rest, relax, and work on getting that fastball mph up. Add healthy muscle, flexibility, and be ready for spring.  Thanks again for your time.  

If it was me I would get him on a driveline/wolforth  throwing and workout program and not worry about the rest of the year/fall. He is s 2019 and with his size and on a workout and velocity improvement program he will be over 90 come next year and you won't have to worry about where to take him as the coaches will find him. 

stayfocused posted:

Recently a post similiar to this was on here and I almost piggybacked on that one but decided against it.   What would you do?  Here is the question:  2019, RHP, 6' 3", 175 lbs, 88 mph (PG), was the go to guy in highschool ball in spring (but coach never over used), as soon as that season finished played on a college showcase team where he would pitch 5-6 innings (averaged ~60-65 pitches) a week on a weekend trip to various colleges (fun but nobody saw him).   Also did one PG tournament with this team (got a nice write up in the PG tourn. blogs).  This was almost every weekend June through mid July.  As soon as that ended picked up by a travel team to play at PG WWBA 16 (the most productive 30 pitches of the whole summer), and PG 16 U Championships in ATL.    Has been invited to play on that same travel team for fall with a few "warm up" tournaments before going to Jupiter.     Contact: 1 mid/upper D1 via travel coach.     This would be an easy decision if he were a position player.  But as a pitcher in order to be at the top of his game, he will have to start throwing and ramping up AGAIN this year in the next few weeks to be ready for the fall season.    One other important thing to know is that we are in a warm weather state so  his highschool season (practices) will begin in January.   So he basically was pitch ready for about 7 straight months.   Knock on wood....no injuries, but over the summer would definitely need rest/ice, etc... between starts.    He/we are leaning toward complete shut down and hitting the gym, running, etc...  to get ready for a very important spring/summer 2018.  WHAT WOULD YOU DO??  

I am assuming that he has no committment at this time, so without a doubt he should attend Jupiter. Why would this not be a priority?  This is the single most important event for any D1 prospect.  And you live within close distance, if you are from a warm weather state.

I am not a fan of over use, or attending  too many showcases or tournaments and spending money when not necessary, but be aware that many D1 programs here in the southeast are wrapping up their 2018s and courting 2019s.  

JMO

 

What sort of colleges is he looking at?  That can help the decision making process here.  FYI its normal after club season to take a few weeks off and slowly ramp back up for fall tournaments and showcasing, then shut down completely late Oct.  He can get at least 8-10 weeks completely shut down, then slowly ramp up in January for Feb games??  When do the actual HS games actually start?

For a 2019 he needs to be showing his stuff this Fall at either PG WWBA under the lights with all the coaches watching and attending a few showcases and camps showing his targeted colleges what sort of stuff he's got.  IF high academic kid go to WWBA and get to AZ Junior Fall Classic in Oct and HF first week of Nov, then shut down completely.  A short shutdown and easy ramp up is healthy and good, it will get him refreshed physically and mentally.

He can be focusing on arm care and refining while he goes through the fall.  He should already have a methodical pre and post game routine to protect his arm.

I was thinking along the lines of what TPM and Gov said...  I am all for the proper rest and recovery periods as yourself and others have noted.  But it sounds like your player is projectable beyond the level of interest he has received to date and the clock is ticking for players that fall in that D1 realm.  Jupiter seems to be such a big event for such players.  Why couldn't he make that his last big event and still have time to shut down for a while before ramping back up for his final HS season?

We don't know a whole lot about what schools/major etc., he is interested in so this factors in as well.  But from a pure baseball standpoint, it seems that the big carrot is hanging and the time is now (October).

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What have you got charted out for next summer? 

IMO, this fall is prime time for him to start generating interest. D-1 RC's are looking for '19's now. He'll be shut down for 10-12 wks (Late Oct- mid Jan)...

As an aside, son attended 2 yrs, on 17U & 18U. We're from Texas, HS bb started in late Jan, first scrimmages/pre-season tourneys 3rd wk of Feb...

In Texas...I would say most pitchers like your son (tall with good velocity) get picked up before the summer between junior and senior year.   Our experience is that most D1 pitchers are taken before the end of a player's junior year.  Then the D1's go to position players the summer between Junior and Senior year.  90 mph seems to be the magic number in terms of velocity.  If I were you, I would go to Jupiter and any individual camps of schools your son is interested in this fall.  I know it is a dilemma to get three months of arm rest.  But...if he commits to a school, you can rest after that (even if you have to tell the high school coach he will only pitch in District play).  I know a few pitchers that have the same description as your son.  One in particular is a 2018.  He has not committed and I don't know what options he has at this point.  

I'll try and answer some of the questions.....his dream baseball school is an SEC school.   They have shown some interest but no "official" contact (saw him pitch twice at PG).   3.5 GPA.  C5TX.......would never tell the highschool coach that he can only pitch in District play....highschool baseball is TOO important AND his highschool is a powerhouse with a bus load of potential D1, D2, etc...pitchers...... that he would probably be told that he was not needed.   Also we hope to be playing for a State title this year.   I guess I am thinking he has nothing else to show in October at Jupiter.....now next year will hopefully be a different story but by then it will probably be too late for dream school.    He has a number one target school mentioned above and a list of 3-5 others that have seen him play on the showcase team this summer.    I would also classify those 3-5 schools as dream schools as well (all upper/mid D1s).  

Next summers plan is to play with the same travel team that we finished the summer with.  They do a lot of PG tournaments and are very competitive.    A side note story on this....I mentioned above he got the most exposure from 29 pitches this summer at PG tournament.   The crazy part about that is that the game was a consolation game being played off site (not at Lake Point).  This was the first time he pitched for this team.  I got there and it was empty and I was thinking these are going to be some wasted pitches.  Low and behold 5 minutes before game time 4 SEC coaches and a Sun Belt coach show up to watch.   They were there to see some other players but my son lucked out and got to pitch in front of them.   

stayfocused...I'd still recommend Jupiter this Oct. Then shut him down. That would give more schools an opportunity to see him and create a baseline for his progress into next summer. Just don't put all your eggs in one basket! It is a balancing act. But Jupiter is very important! 

Good luck to you!  My kid also goes to a powerhouse high school.  But I have come to realize that high school ball really does not matter when it comes to college recruiting.  I have seen some kids who do not pitch at their high school going to Major D1 schools.   Summer and off-season select ball is where all the recruiting takes place.  Good luck to your son!!  I hope he gets an offer soon...:-)

You can continue to run him into the fall, but showing what they/you already know serves no purpose. Any question that they may not know him? Have him reach out to the RC/HC, they'll tell you if they're "IN" on him. Don't feel comfortable asking........His coach can simply text them to ask.

Get busy! Work on strength, imbalances and mobility! If you show them improvement in the spring, they will come! It may or may not be the "dream school" but I promise it will be someone that wants him! To be "wanted" is a key component to being a fit!

I have never seen a school turn down a legit dude! IF they want you, they will do whatever it takes to land you. Including finding funds.

 

I think he pitches too much. As someone said here take 3 months off throwing now and really hit the weights during that time and gain some weight. Then start a good weighted ball program along with some pitching lessons and hit 93 next summer.

I think recruiting timelines matter less for pitchers if you are able to get above 90.

So better keep him healthy and throw 90 next summer than trying to have him pitching in every fall and winter showcase.

Make sure he is contacting the school/schools he is interested in.  If they don't know of interest in them then you are missing opportunity.  I have had to remind my son through the process that recruiting is a dating relationship.  Both sides have to show interest and flirt.  Then after you are going steady, you have to trust the other one won't hurt your feelings and break up with you for the new kid in school.  He understands that mentality. 

Contacting his school/schools may give you some idea where they stand and if they are even going to be at Jupiter.  If he is not faster, it is not needed unless you are just wanting him seen by others, they say.  I say Jupiter is worth the experience and every good/great high school player should experience it once.

6'3, 175 throwing 88.....if he has a good showing at Jupiter, he may not need the summer of 2018.  If he can be ready, I'd go ahead and do it.  You won't find another opportunity to be seen by that many coaches/scouts until next July.  Why wait, unless you're really concerned that getting back in throwing shape is going to be a problem.  Kids like that will get noticed.  As someone else said, make sure to contact any coaches who have expressed interest (or that your son is interested in) and let them know he'll be in Jupiter.  Then follow up once he has an idea when he'll throw.  It would be great if he's a starter and his team can tell you his spot in the rotation ahead of time so you can promote his start to coaches. 

There is zero downside to taking 3 months off from throwing.  Plenty of upside

The pressure to do more, more, more is ridiculous.  Kids throwing year round and not taking time off from throwing, serious time off (i.e. not 6 weeks here, 6 weeks there) is an obvious problem.  88 mph is an amazing feat for a 16-17 year old, few humans can throw that fast, it puts a tremendous amount of torque/pressure on the UCL though.   He needs time off to heal.

He's from Texas.  There is zero leverage with his high school coaches for time off when they start.  None.   Something has to give.

 

baseballmom posted:

stayfocused...I'd still recommend Jupiter this Oct. Then shut him down. That would give more schools an opportunity to see him and create a baseline for his progress into next summer. Just don't put all your eggs in one basket! It is a balancing act. But Jupiter is very important! 

I agree with BBM.

IMO, most SEC schools are done with recruiting, don't put your eggs in one basket!!! This fall is very important,  go to jupiter, let coaches know now via email, shut down after that.

 

Update from original poster.....we decided to do fall and Jupiter.  Have played two weekends at Lake Point the past two weeks.  Total innings pitched: 7, total pitches this fall: 83,  number of hits: 1,  Walks: 1, Velo: 86-88 (although this 88 was on the northern side of 88).   I believe one or two more innings before Jupiter and then we are done for the fall.   A question about Jupiter....I noticed that we now have a game listed for that Thursday morning and its listed as an "Exhibition" game.    Do they list all games played at Jupiter as "Exhibition" games?  If not then what motivation would a team have to play in an exhibition game (wont most teams be worried about running out of pitching?).   Since it seems that he has nothing new to show.....should he still contact the schools he is interested in?   If your son has done Jupiter as a PO, did you just go down for his game and come right back home or stay the entire time?  Will be excused from school since we will list it as a college visit (will stop by Gainesville to see UofF on way down).   Thanks. 

Great advice already. IMO...it all depends on his goals. As you have already experienced, attending tournaments/showcases can be a crap shoot for a variety of reasons. It sounds like your son is right on the cusp of being on radar of some quality programs. In our experience and also being familiar with the path of multiple local pitchers...consistent fastball velo or sitting 88+ is going to open a lot of doors! Sitting 86 and touching 87-88 is going to draw interest but the higher level teams are going to wait until he gets to that 88+ number. However, with that said, there are definitely going to be programs out there that are willing to take a risk based on projectability, athleticism, etc. As long as you take the time to carefully measure risk/reward with some of these baseball opportunities, you are going to be doing right by your son. Also good to note that even when you do your best to make the right decision, there will be times when you look back and second guess. At least that is our experience and seems to be the experience of many on this board.

stayfocused posted:

A question about Jupiter....I noticed that we now have a game listed for that Thursday morning and its listed as an "Exhibition" game.    Do they list all games played at Jupiter as "Exhibition" games?  If not then what motivation would a team have to play in an exhibition game (wont most teams be worried about running out of pitching?).   Since it seems that he has nothing new to show.....should he still contact the schools he is interested in?   If your son has done Jupiter as a PO, did you just go down for his game and come right back home or stay the entire time?  Will be excused from school since we will list it as a college visit (will stop by Gainesville to see UofF on way down).   Thanks. 

My 2018 is doing Jupiter as well and I was curious about the exhibition game too, so anyone with any insight on how this all works would be appreciated. Son is already committed so he's just going as a reward for the years of hard work he's put in. His version of a senior trip.

Son is going as a PO for a team he hasn't played with before. Getting in late Wednesday and heading home very early Monday in an attempt not to miss TOO MUCH school. I told the attendance person flat out we were going to a baseball tournament. I'm assuming they'll excuse it, but we'll see.

Not sure if he'll get one inning, a game, or a couple. Probably depends on how he does. I'm intrigued to see the show.

I get the whole shut down thing. My son played year round around Atlanta. I guess he wasn't pitching live about 2 months out of the year. Nothing for 2 months and then long toss into bullpens. But then again, he would throw 4 innings in the summer and go play ss or LF. Take care of the arms is the best bet, we got lucky i guess. 

Iowamom, refer to this as a recruiting trip. It is confirmation of decision, kind of �� Then, play with gusto & have fun! It gets expensive real quick, so head to Publix for ready made meals & a few Marie Calendar pot pies. Yum! And take him to the beach...bound to be some "beautiful babes"! Lol

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If you are going to be  PO in college as a 2019 and you have not committed, you better go to Jupiter if arm is fine.  he will likely throw 1-2 faster just being there.

Some of the top top programs are finalizing the 2019 class for pitchers.  Something to shoot for if you are wanting ACC  SEC  , he needs to be sitting 88-90 with projection to 91-93   and have two other quality pitches... 

Can you "make" the team at LSU, Vandy, Louisville  with 88-90  sure you can if you have impeccable command.... if not playing time will be limited. 

Unlike mid level D1 or low D1, the high D1's need you to be able to contribute quickly as in freshman year.  They only have you for 2-3 years, not many sr's at Vandy for instance.  There's not a ton of time to get there.

IMHO,  his velo is not going to garner interest from top programs and I hate to see players take the commitment to high D1's and end up being at the low end of the roster taking a chance on getting cut, red shirted, transferring etc... that's a nightmare. 

Find the program where he can as you stated be the go to guy. 

Good luck ,  PM me if you want, I will be in Jupiter all week, would love to see him pitch.

 

Exhibition Games are scheduled for some teams that request them.  They don't count as actual pool games being the only difference.  They are scheduled at the very beginning.  These teams have the roster to support playing an extra game.  It provides more playing time and exposure for a lot of kids.  One game that usually happens each year always stands out for me (Ontario vs. British Columbia). That one seems to mean more.

I never like to tell people what they should do, contrary to what some have said, but I am glad to see parents and players make the decision to attend the WWBA in Jupiter.  Anyone that has ever been there knows it is the biggest scouting attraction in all of baseball.  It is not a place that every MLB Club sends a scout or a college sends a grad assistant, MLB organizations send their entire scouting department, including those in charge and sometimes even the GMs.  Colleges will often have the head coach and recruiting coordinators there.  It's not only a tournament, it is a convention, a job fair, a circus, a lot of networking.  It is one of those things that MLB All Stars still talk about.  It is something that a player will never forget.

Please if anyone wants to call this post a PG promotion... Stop before you start.  This event needs absolutely no promoting. It is what it is and if you haven't been there you couldn't  possibly understand.  The hardest part for us is we have to turn away some great teams every year and that can create some enemies.  I truly wish everyone could have this experience. Even those that don't get the results they wanted will never forget they were there.  So yes, I'm happy that some have decided to go.  I hope anyone attending from HSBBW would PM me with your sons name and which team he is on.  If I get the chance I would enjoy watching them play. 

Suggestion; Tell your son to enjoy this event.  Sure there is pressure with all the eyes around, tell them to love that pressure.  Elite competition, the biggest crowd of scouts, recruiters and agents anyone will ever see, it's a players dream. Even the very best have done poorly at this event.  You would be surprised with how much scouts and college coaches like to see players do poorly.  Sometimes you can find out more about a players chance for success by how he is capable of handling failure.  Talent gets you noticed, makeup makes you successful. I hope your kids have a blast.  Also, make sure you attend the night games on Friday or Saturday, even if your team isn't playing.

Parking is an issue, but it is FREE.  There is an admission charge for non team members.  Sorry I don't know how much it is.  Seems like the concession prices were within reason, if I remember correctly.  Make sure you wear comfortable shoes to walk in.  If anyone is unable to walk, please inform the people at the gate and they will transport you to the field you are going to.  They will also pick you up and bring you back.  There is no cost for that. There is not a lot of seating so you might want to bring a folding chair.  An umbrella could come in handy for both sun and if it rains.

For those that think this is a post trying to sell something using the HSBBW, I'm sorry.  You might notice that there was no post trying to talk someone into anything.  Only after people made their decision did I post anything. I don't want to sell anything to anyone. I just happen to know quite a bit about PG and can answer some questions.

 

 

PGStaff posted:

Exhibition Games are scheduled for some teams that request them.  They don't count as actual pool games being the only difference.  They are scheduled at the very beginning.  These teams have the roster to support playing an extra game.  It provides more playing time and exposure for a lot of kids.  One game that usually happens each year always stands out for me (Ontario vs. British Columbia). That one seems to mean more.

I never like to tell people what they should do, contrary to what some have said, but I am glad to see parents and players make the decision to attend the WWBA in Jupiter.  Anyone that has ever been there knows it is the biggest scouting attraction in all of baseball.  It is not a place that every MLB Club sends a scout or a college sends a grad assistant, MLB organizations send their entire scouting department, including those in charge and sometimes even the GMs.  Colleges will often have the head coach and recruiting coordinators there.  It's not only a tournament, it is a convention, a job fair, a circus, a lot of networking.  It is one of those things that MLB All Stars still talk about.  It is something that a player will never forget.

Please if anyone wants to call this post a PG promotion... Stop before you start.  This event needs absolutely no promoting. It is what it is and if you haven't been there you couldn't  possibly understand.  The hardest part for us is we have to turn away some great teams every year and that can create some enemies.  I truly wish everyone could have this experience. Even those that don't get the results they wanted will never forget they were there.  So yes, I'm happy that some have decided to go.  I hope anyone attending from HSBBW would PM me with your sons name and which team he is on.  If I get the chance I would enjoy watching them play. 

Suggestion; Tell your son to enjoy this event.  Sure there is pressure with all the eyes around, tell them to love that pressure.  Elite competition, the biggest crowd of scouts, recruiters and agents anyone will ever see, it's a players dream. Even the very best have done poorly at this event.  You would be surprised with how much scouts and college coaches like to see players do poorly.  Sometimes you can find out more about a players chance for success by how he is capable of handling failure.  Talent gets you noticed, makeup makes you successful. I hope your kids have a blast.  Also, make sure you attend the night games on Friday or Saturday, even if your team isn't playing.

Parking is an issue, but it is FREE.  There is an admission charge for non team members.  Sorry I don't know how much it is.  Seems like the concession prices were within reason, if I remember correctly.  Make sure you wear comfortable shoes to walk in.  If anyone is unable to walk, please inform the people at the gate and they will transport you to the field you are going to.  They will also pick you up and bring you back.  There is no cost for that. There is not a lot of seating so you might want to bring a folding chair.  An umbrella could come in handy for both sun and if it rains.

For those that think this is a post trying to sell something using the HSBBW, I'm sorry.  You might notice that there was no post trying to talk someone into anything.  Only after people made their decision did I post anything. I don't want to sell anything to anyone. I just happen to know quite a bit about PG and can answer some questions.

 

 

Jerry, I have a question. Please don't take this as an attack -- it is not intended that way! My question is: how do you select the teams for the WWBA World?

I see 86 teams and only 5 from California (well, really 4, because one team has no California kids) and living in a state with 1/8 of the U.S. population and typically 20-25% of draft picks and U.S.-born MLB players, it seems like the West is very under-represented (not just California; no teams from Nevada or Washington, 1 from Arizona). I guess I wonder, could the WWBA be even better if all of the top teams in the country were there? Or at least a more representative distribution of teams.

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That is a good question.

This tournament is much different than most.  We are not necessarily looking for the best teams as much as we are looking for the best players.  Teams want to win, we want the best possible players.  Over the years many of the very top draft picks from California played on teams based outside of California or even the west.  This year you will see top California players on many different rosters, especially the various MLB Scout teams.  Our goal in places like Arizona, Washington and other areas is again to get the best players from those places.  So usually Team Northwest and the scout teams will have the best players from Washington, Oregon, Idaho.  The one AZ team will have most all the best players in AZ. 

There are several teams that recruit players nationally for this event.  In many cases it isn't costing some of these top players any money.  That is because the team is taking care of all the players expenses on that team.

So even though the home base for these teams is listed, their roster could include players from anywhere.  I can pretty much guarantee that every top player in the country has been recruited by one or more teams.  Many of these players will be coming from the other top teams in the country.  Next to actual college recruiting, this event probably creates more recruiting than anything. I would say that more than half the teams recruit nationally for this event.  Many of the teams aren't even real teams, they just play in this event.  Now for the very best teams the tournament becomes a bigger deal to win or do well.  It is very difficult to win the championship.  Even these top teams, some from California, will load up with additional players.

We do understand that there are many outstanding teams that we can't get in.  Especially in California because we see them at other events we do.  Most of them don't seem to mind if their top players play for a scout team in Jupiter.  It is a great tournament, but it is more about individual players and scouts than anything else. 85 teams, most of them wanting the best players in the country. It gets pretty competitive.

One last comment, that some might have a problem with.  California has produced twice as many MLB players as any other state.  It has had by far the most draft picks.  However, this class is nowhere near the normal California draft class.  Pretty much the entire scouting community is in agreement.  By California standards, this appears to be one of the worst years for talent.  That is by California standards, Still even this class is extremely strong compared to other parts of the country.  It may not show up in the total number of HS draft picks, but right now there are more early round HS draft prospects in Georgia than the entire Pacific Coast.  Then again California always seems to come up with a late bloomer or two the spring before the draft.

BTW, every top player won't be in Jupiter.  Some pitchers have shut down, some USA players can't miss any more school.  Some are involved in other sports or activities.  The good thing is there are a lot of outstanding baseball players.  Even some that we didn't know much about until seeing them in Jupiter.  In last nights NL Wild Card game, half the players in that game we saw when they were in HS, most of them in Jupiter.  Kind of cool when the Rockies get back to back from Arenado and Story against Bradley. Seeing Greinke, Neshek, Parra, Goldschmidt, LaMahieu, both teams catchers, most all the pitchers, and others, actually think it was much more than half, that we watched in HS.  That isn't bragging, we had nothing to do with how good they are. It's just a lot of fun and brings back some good memories.  Every year we have some of the past guys show up at Jupiter for one reason or another.  Funny some of the things they remember.

Sorry for getting off the topic, hope I answered your question 2019DAD.

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