I haven't noticed him posting in quite some time. If I am mistaken about that, someone please let me know and I'll remove this thread. Hope all is well with him.
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I've wondered the same thing. I always enjoyed his input, and his perspective was extremely valuable. Mostly I appreciated his willingness to help kids out that he didn't even know...
Perhaps he got tired of being attacked and the "PG Villian" every time he spoke up about anything
I'm pretty sure he bowed out about 6 months or so ago. There were a couple threads where he was getting beat up pretty badly about issues at Lakepoint and him promoting his company or something along those lines. I think most of the posters here think that was ridiculous. Hopefully he still checks in from time to time and sees that there is a need for his perspective and experience.
I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
Chicago643 posted:I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
For a dad who is "trying to learn all I can about the recruiting process" (per profile), his insights on how colleges go about recruiting are invaluable. The fact that he is the person behind what has turned into the premiere recruiting hub should not really be held against him. He is way past having to promote much of anything to the general public, much less to this group of what is largely baseball parents.
Chicago643 posted:I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
Yes, we all know what a treasure Chicago has been as opposed to PG. Just a wealth of information & assistance to parents trying to navigate the experience. Or not.....
2017LHPscrewball posted:Chicago643 posted:I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
For a dad who is "trying to learn all I can about the recruiting process" (per profile), his insights on how colleges go about recruiting are invaluable. The fact that he is the person behind what has turned into the premiere recruiting hub should not really be held against him. He is way past having to promote much of anything to the general public, much less to this group of what is largely baseball parents.
He wasn’t saying anything that others on this board don’t say, but his view of the importance of PG in the recruitment and drafting of players was a little inflated in my opinion. Sure he’s a nice guy and hope his health is good.
Steve A. posted:Chicago643 posted:I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
Yes, we all know what a treasure Chicago has been as opposed to PG. Just a wealth of information & assistance to parents trying to navigate the experience. Or not.....
It’s undeniable that the amount of PG related posts have gone down...just stating the facts.
Wow, I know he had mentioned that he may step away....I hope that's not the case. Anyone who has had a kid go on to play baseball in college has likely gotten some really good info from PG at one time or another over the years....I know I certainly did. If those of you who are still going thru the recruiting process with your HS'ers have managed to run him off all I can tell you is that it's your loss. He would answer any questions with regard to recruiting...whether it had anything to do with PG or not. He knows a lot of people....and has more connections in the college baseball world than probably anyone else in the country.
Steve A. posted:Chicago643 posted:I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
Yes, we all know what a treasure Chicago has been as opposed to PG. Just a wealth of information & assistance to parents trying to navigate the experience. Or not.....
I don’t give recruiting advice or information. I state my opinion, which you are welcome to ignore.
Chicago643 posted:Steve A. posted:Chicago643 posted:I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
Yes, we all know what a treasure Chicago has been as opposed to PG. Just a wealth of information & assistance to parents trying to navigate the experience. Or not.....
It’s undeniable that the amount of PG related posts have gone down...just stating the facts.
Uh....it's also February.....and half the country is still covered in snow 
Chicago643 posted:Steve A. posted:Chicago643 posted:I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
Yes, we all know what a treasure Chicago has been as opposed to PG. Just a wealth of information & assistance to parents trying to navigate the experience. Or not.....
I don’t give recruiting advice or information. I state my opinion, which you are welcome to ignore.
I "liked" your post, or at least the second half of it (couldn't locate the half-like button)
Chicago643 posted:2017LHPscrewball posted:Chicago643 posted:I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
For a dad who is "trying to learn all I can about the recruiting process" (per profile), his insights on how colleges go about recruiting are invaluable. The fact that he is the person behind what has turned into the premiere recruiting hub should not really be held against him. He is way past having to promote much of anything to the general public, much less to this group of what is largely baseball parents.
He wasn’t saying anything that others on this board don’t say, but his view of the importance of PG in the recruitment and drafting of players was a little inflated in my opinion. Sure he’s a nice guy and hope his health is good.
Chicago, where are your kids in the recruiting process? Are you, or have you been a club coach or HS coach actively involved in the recruiting process?
Gov posted:Chicago643 posted:2017LHPscrewball posted:Chicago643 posted:I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
For a dad who is "trying to learn all I can about the recruiting process" (per profile), his insights on how colleges go about recruiting are invaluable. The fact that he is the person behind what has turned into the premiere recruiting hub should not really be held against him. He is way past having to promote much of anything to the general public, much less to this group of what is largely baseball parents.
He wasn’t saying anything that others on this board don’t say, but his view of the importance of PG in the recruitment and drafting of players was a little inflated in my opinion. Sure he’s a nice guy and hope his health is good.
Chicago, where are your kids in the recruiting process? Are you, or have you been a club coach or HS coach actively involved in the recruiting process?
Well I have a feeling that if I tell you my kid is committed to a Power 5 and never attended a PG event you will find a way to say that somehow PG had something to do with that.
PG puts on a great tournament that attracts teams and players. Those tournaments by default bring coaches to recruit. It’s not easy to build, I get it. But PG is also responsible for a lot of kids trying to overthrow and injuring themselves to put a number on a radar, maybe not him personally but the product he hs developed.
Chicago643 posted:Steve A. posted:Chicago643 posted:I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
Yes, we all know what a treasure Chicago has been as opposed to PG. Just a wealth of information & assistance to parents trying to navigate the experience. Or not.....
I don’t give recruiting advice or information. I state my opinion, which you are welcome to ignore.
Don't worry. I will take that advice. Just FYI. Back when all the turmoil went down (basically over nothing) I did PM him & stress that he should not pack it in as his insight was a true value to the site. I do not know him personally, but his experience & knowledge relating to the topics discussed here were the most beneficial that I could find. Fact is he was tired of having to battle against nonsense, directed by the likes of you, suggesting it was all about promoting PG & making $$ or whatever & now he has possibly moved on & we are left with the valid option of ignoring your advice as a substitute for his insight. So thanks & keep up the great work.
Chicago643 posted:But PG is also responsible for a lot of kids trying to overthrow and injuring themselves to put a number on a radar, maybe not him personally but the product he hs developed.
That's maybe the most ridiculous statement that's ever been posted here. I can tell you from experience that EVERY time a coach with a gun shows up a kid will try to overthrow to light up the gun, even if it's just in a bullpen at practice.....trust me, I have a D1 pitcher who I watched do it for years. It doesn't matter if it's at PG event, a HS game where a D3 coach is watching or a junior high game with some crazed dad who went out and bought a pocket radar. Kids are kids....and velo is velo. Heck, my son is a junior in college now and he still does it.....every pitcher does. To somehow try to blame PG or a PG event for arm injuries is really reaching for reasons to put down a guy and his company.
Chicago, I don't know you and you don't know me. I don't know PG either. What I do know is he has helped more than a few people on this site in a personal way. One poster, RedFishFool, who isn't around much can attest to this personally. I never got the opinion that Jerry "pushed" PG on anyone. There are multiple posts that he admits PG is not for every player out there. His stance was the vast majority of the best player were PG alums. That is just the fact, not Jerry tooting the PG horn. He really seemed to be in a no-win situation. When he would use his PG stats to back up or support a position, he was bashed for promoting his organization. What's a guy to do? The man had at least one son that played professional baseball. He coached at the collegiate level. He was a professional scout. All this PRIOR to starting PG. In fact, PG was started, I believe, to allow kids in the Iowa area a chance to train in the winter to try and level the playing field with the southern players. I'm quite sure he envisioned a successful business. Why would ANYONE start a business that he / she hopes will fail or not be successful? Because his business is super successful, some feel as if he personally is part of the problem of parents spending money on kids that have zero chance to make the next level. That is such a bogus thought process, in my opinion. It just seems such a shame to me that an individual with as much experience as Jerry has would be made to feel unwelcome on an internet site. I would think that a parent that has a high school aged kid that is looking for advice or opinions would highly value a person like Jerry Ford of many other posters on this site that have "been there and done that". You may not always agree with their advice or see an alternate route as better for your specific circumstance, but that doesn't make their advice any less credible. These are just my humble opinions, so take them for what they are. I have ZERO skin in the game with PG. I am 100% convinced that the PG platform was a HUGE part of my son being where he is today. So maybe I am slightly biased toward PG.
You are welcome to do what you want. Any question someone poses on here has no lack of valid responses, it’s just that 99% of them aren’t the owners of PG. Does their input have merit - absolutely! Is it the gospel? Hell no! Do they have a conflict of interest? In my opinion yes. If you look at how long PG and others trying to compete with them have “stretched the season” for a baseball player, it is apparent they are trying to generate more revenue. Is that best for the players? Hosting tournaments on dates when kids should be in school is one example. How does this benefit anyone other than PGs bottom line? It sure doesn’t promote the “student” aspect of student athlete.
Chicago643 posted:Gov posted:Chicago643 posted:2017LHPscrewball posted:Chicago643 posted:I think it’s more telling that in his absence there have been waaay fewer posts about PG tournaments and showcases.
For a dad who is "trying to learn all I can about the recruiting process" (per profile), his insights on how colleges go about recruiting are invaluable. The fact that he is the person behind what has turned into the premiere recruiting hub should not really be held against him. He is way past having to promote much of anything to the general public, much less to this group of what is largely baseball parents.
He wasn’t saying anything that others on this board don’t say, but his view of the importance of PG in the recruitment and drafting of players was a little inflated in my opinion. Sure he’s a nice guy and hope his health is good.
Chicago, where are your kids in the recruiting process? Are you, or have you been a club coach or HS coach actively involved in the recruiting process?
Well I have a feeling that if I tell you my kid is committed to a Power 5 and never attended a PG event you will find a way to say that somehow PG had something to do with that.
PG puts on a great tournament that attracts teams and players. Those tournaments by default bring coaches to recruit. It’s not easy to build, I get it. But PG is also responsible for a lot of kids trying to overthrow and injuring themselves to put a number on a radar, maybe not him personally but the product he hs developed.
Nope, and I know a number of players like that....
This might not be a good site for you.