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External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

jimster ·
Check out my articles on the topic. ...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

SultanofSwat ·
Are you advocating forearm 'flop/lay back' backwards with your forearm at 90 degrees? Is that what MLB pitchers do? In video 3, you are advocating using weighted balls to increase your range of motion in external rotation. Why does my ROM need to increase? What is the ideal ROM angle?
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

jimster ·
Essentially, yes. And depending on what major leaguers you look it, it is what I tend to see. I would like to promote more of a focus of 90 degrees with the angle of your back, but there are guys that very on this part of mechanics. I have found that when my external rotation is at its max potential, the rest of my mechanics are where I want them to be. I will address the rest of your questions in two ways. ROM can refer to both static and dynamic ROM. A good way to tell the differences is...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

Ohio Dad ·
Just to add two cents, most of the players I work with have too much external rotation and not enough internal rotation. Most players that develop elbow issues have this exact imbalance: Internal Rotation Deficit. Not trying to be negative or argumentative in any way, but just what I have seen over 20 years. Not sure why a player would want to create that type of imbalance of ER to IR. additionally, it is not just the shoulder (glenohumeral joint) that allows these folks to get into these...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

jimster ·
Do you have an example of a pitcher who has that issue? I'm curious to see an example of a pitcher with that issue. Throughout the process of changing my arm action and overall mechanics, I was pretty consistently told that I have good internal rotation, when my external rotation was poor. So that is something I have little to no focus on that part of my mechanics. I also did very little research on internal research in general, so I am not very knowledgeable about the issues associated with...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

SUAWTG ·
Jimster- The DriveLine article you reference in your write up talks about the IR issues. Specifically the Sleeper Stretch. This is all new to me but has become a hot topic in my household since my son has developed scapular issues. He has very limited IR on his throwing arm compared to his non-throwing arm. This is typical of throwers acording to his Physical Therapist. Also he has been doing Jaeger bands 3 times a week for 2 years now and they are great for the rotator cuff, but don't do...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

jimster ·
I remember the part the article a little. Is internal rotation lack of ROM just referencing a static stretch comparison or you're mentioning? Or is their something when those pitchers throw that show an issue too. I have read about pitchers having the issue your son is having, but I have not heard of any issues in the actual pitching motion. Similar to how I talk external rotation. You can see the level of external rotation you achieve. Is there something that you can see when you look at...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

SUAWTG ·
I am not sure of a way to tell in the actual throwing motion. I am just a dad and know very little about this. The PT showed his lack of IR by comparing his IR via the Sleeper Stretch on both sides. His throwing side would not rotate without his shoulder blade moving forward with it. He had done normal stuff (only 14) not heavy lifting. Pushups and light weights etc.. Unfortunately if your scapular muscles are not activating then instead of these exercises making them stronger your body...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

jimster ·
If you're interested in finding exercises to work those muscles you can search http://exrx.net/ . A great resource for anything related to working out. And free too. That's the best part. Also check out the body map here http://exrx.net/Lists/WtMale.html You click on the areas of the body that you want to find workouts for and it will show you stuff that you can do. If you are having him do push-ups, then you can add other body weight exercises to work the upper body as well. Pull ups and...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

Bulldog 19 ·
Anybody want to take a guess on how many baseball players I've stretched into external rotation of the shoulder? Volleyball hitters? That's right--- Exactly ZERO. They already have excessive ER and by stretching it, all I would do is stress the already stressed joint..
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

jimster ·
Not everyone has excessive or complete external rotation nor am I promoting static stretching of it. Or any type of stretching. My article talks improving arm action so external rotatiom(that naturally occurs)can happen. I don't really understand the purpose of your post and it seems kind of combative. If you have seething to add to the conversation, please do. But please add comments that relate to the topic on hand. Thanks!
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Best Camp that don't give catchers short shrift?

HitRunThrowCatch ·
15 yo, only been playing ball for four years, catching for two. He's a wall behind the plate, coachable, and as a bonus, can hit. Since he was a late-comer to baseball, he attended a few camps. He did learn quite a bit. Now that he's primarily a catcher, he'd like to do a camp that concentrates more on those position-specific skills. HS coaches aren't much good on instucting, and son needs a better throw. Florida Baseball Camp has been recommended, but perhaps y'all have other thoughts?
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Electric shock/numbness when throwing hard

FrancisD5 ·
I am a college pitcher and as soon as I get to throwing hard I get numbness or a shocking sensation to all my fingers except my thumb. Any suggestions on what I should do to help this? This has been a issue for almost 2 years now.
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New Video of Receiving, Blocking, and Throwing

Wesleythecacther ·
Hello everyone. I just uploaded a new skills video to YouTube here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3A_IRAiJFY Please give me some feedback on what you guys think. Any advice is appreciated.
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Catching Video, Feedback Appreciated

Wesleythecacther ·
Hello everyone. I just uploaded a new skills video to YouTube here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3A_IRAiJFY Please give me some feedback on what you guys think. Any advice is appreciated
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Holiday and summer Baseball camp comments - Doyle and others

WashBarn ·
My 2019 son attended Doyle Academy's winter 5 day camp over the holidays.  Thought it would be helpful to post some comments on this and a couple of others.  First and foremost he had a lot of fun at Doyle.  The boys worked hard for sure.  They are pretty old school down at Doyle - my guy went in very fit but was sore the entire camp due to countless push-ups.  That was fine. The instruction was also very old school.  Hitting - Blake Doyle is hitting...
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Velocity, God given? Or can it be drastically improved?

Wesleythecacther ·
What would be an average catcher velocity for high school varsity catchers? More specifically in the class of 2017? What would be an ideal catching velocity? Attached is a video of me throwing, any advice? Also, here is a link that I found that has workouts that will help pitchers throw harder: http://www.stack.com/a/how-to-throw-harder Will those workouts in the link above work for position players?
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Vault Baseball Clinic & Camp - Pitching, Throwing, and Hitting - November 19/20 (Virginia Beach)

utilityman ·
Vault Fitness & Athletics will be hosting its first baseball clinic of the offseason on November 19-20. This two day camp will focus on the fundamental mechanics of pitching/throwing and hitting. The camp is 2 hours each day (12-2 pm) and is limited to 24 players total. Ages will be tee ball thru high school. Players will be divided into two groups by age (young/old) with a maximum of 12 players per group. Groups will switch coaches on the second day of camp. The camp will be staffed by...
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Throwing Elbow and Shoulder Pain.

Wesleythecacther ·
Need some help. I have pain sometimes, well most of the times, in the areas that are marked in red. This is while i an playing and throwing a baseball. I am a catcher. I mostly have pain in the elbow most of the time if it hurts. Sometimes it hurts in the shoulder. Or sometimes both. What should I do? Please help and let me know if you know.
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how hard do I have to throw to go D1

Gavin crowley ·
hi. I'm in 8th grade, averaging around 81 MPH, and maxing out at 83-84. I'm 6'1, 160 pounds. I was wondering how hard I need to throw to go division 1 from this point. Also, how soon should I begin to look at colleges? I'm still young, in 8th grade.
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Catching Pop Time

Wesleythecacther ·
Need some help, tips, advice for my throws to second. I was thinking that I should be throwing under 2.0 to the bag, but I am not from what I saw of my recent video that I got of myself. any advice, mechanically, etc. on what to do? What could I be doing wrong? There is the link to my video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RavimeYq3Ig
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Osteochondritis Dissecans

jfarry ·
I know that many of you have replied in the past about OCD. We are hoping for information, encouragement and answers to our 14 year old son's OCD. It presented itself in the trochlea as opposed to the Capitellum like many others. Has anyone else had OCD in the trochlea???? When he first experienced pain (we took x-rays and an MRI) he was not diagnosed with OCD. We took a conservative approach anyway by resting for 3 months, PT and then a slow throwing program to get him back on track.
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Catcher Skills

Wesleythecacther ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdHr6JAOE2s   Here is a link to my video from Baseball Factory. Here is a link to my Baseball Factory page: http://members.baseballfactory...er/_/109066/#member/   Can I have any catching advice, more on...
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redbird5 ·
Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm strengthening/stabilizing program. We use Jamie Evans' Velo-City (...
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CaCO3Girl ·
Has your velocity been clocked on your throw down?
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standballdad ·
Originally Posted by redbird5: Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm strengthening/stabilizing program. We use Jamie Evans'...
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Re: Catcher Skills

Wesleythecacther ·
Originally Posted by CaCO3Girl: Has your velocity been clocked on your throw down? I have been clocked at 75 mph.
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Re: Catcher Skills

Wesleythecacther ·
Originally Posted by standballdad: Originally Posted by redbird5: Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm...
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Re: Throwing Elbow and Shoulder Pain.

JCG ·
What does your doctor say?
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Re: Throwing Elbow and Shoulder Pain.

Wesleythecacther ·
I have not gone and seen my doctor. Don't want to be done for the season. And the pain is not all the time when I throw. But i throw more times with pain then without.
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Re: Throwing Elbow and Shoulder Pain.

FoxDad ·
I would strongly recommend seeing a doctor. Consistent pain when throwing indicates a problem. Your body is sending a message. Don't ignore it.
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Re: Throwing Elbow and Shoulder Pain.

Golfman25 ·
You definitely should seek medical attention. Do you have a trainer at school? At kids school they would get you evaluated by tye trainer first, then if necessary send you to the ortho. On the positive side, since you have pain in several locations it would seem like general irritation and inflammation. Not some thing catastrophic like ucl tear. Get it checked out and let the pros guide you. Good luck.
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Re: Throwing Elbow and Shoulder Pain.

2forU ·
When it hurts, shut it down. You only have one throwing arm, when it's gone, so are you. Talk to your coach, athletic trainer, or doctor. Short term disruptions should not derail your long term plans, but they might if you wait too long.
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Re: Throwing Elbow and Shoulder Pain.

Nuke83 ·
Wesley, From following your posts, I know that you've been extremely dedicated and worked hard to earn an opportunity to play at the next level. You REALLY need to follow the advice given, even if it means that you need to rest (best case) and miss some or all of this season. This pain is significant enough to cause you concern. If it's simply inflammation and not an injury, you run the risk of injury by compensating with improper mechanics or simply the fatigue. If it is injury, then you...
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Re: Throwing Elbow and Shoulder Pain.

Wesleythecacther ·
good news today, had a game. we won 11 to 10 and I did not have any arm pain today. It felt fine. I made sure to warm up well and I made sure to use my legs more and get back and use my whole body. Will let you all updated.
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playball2011 ·
U need to trust your trainer and have a talk about problems u are having. They can help
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Re: how hard do I have to throw to go D1

2019Dad ·
Here you go: http://community.hsbaseballweb...r-at-certain-schools Good luck!
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Re: how hard do I have to throw to go D1

Buckeye 2015 ·
RHP or lefty? My son is at a mid-major D1.....there are plenty of guys throwing 85-86 on the teams he's played against over the past two years. 90+ will get you noticed by some bigger schools....especially if you're a lefty. Keep in mind velo isn't the only thing.....college umpires seem to be tighter with their strike zone than HS, so being able to control the velo is probably just as (if not more) important than just throwing hard. If you're at 83-84 as an 8th grader and have reasonable...
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Big Taco ·
Harder than you are throwing now. 8th grade doesn't matter. How hard will you throw as a senior in High School? Will you work hard to gain velocity? Will you stay healthy? Will you still play? Can you pitch? Do you have a "plus" curveball, changeup, slider? Can you handle game pressure? How do you handle setbacks? Can you make grades? Are you a hard worker? Time will tell. What can you do to set yourself apart from all the other hard throwers? Keep working at it.
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Re: how hard do I have to throw to go D1

Goosegg ·
There are several questions rolled into one. First, velo at D1. D1 has roughly 300 baseball programs, ranging from the SEC down to a few teams which are unaffiliated. At the tippy top, roughly sitting 90+ gets notice. At the lower end, a RH starter may sit 85 - 88. LHP can throw a few miles slower. Unique pitchers (e.g., sidearm) are considered separately. Second, what do YOU want to do? You are way ahead here (being in 8th grade), but it's never too early to think, learn, and develop a...
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Re: how hard do I have to throw to go D1

rynoattack ·
Size & Velo sound really good for an 8th grader. Keep working hard, but just as importantly, work on your GPA & ACT. They will factor in BIG TIME! You seem like you are well on your way. Keep up the good work, and keep us posted on your progress!
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rynoattack ·
I agree with your control assertion. Biggest difference this year for my son, was his control improvement.
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CaCO3Girl ·
Gavin, are you on a good travel team? When I say good I mean are they playing in high profile tournaments? Do they have a good history with connecting players to colleges? Are you with people of similar skill? My son is 14u, he played in a PG event this past weekend that had one starting pitcher in the high 50's and another in the low 90's! There is a huge difference in this age. Make sure you are on a team that is going to get you ready for high school. Then when you get there you can talk...
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Re: how hard do I have to throw to go D1

JCG ·
Good advice here to which I will add: TAKE CARE OF YOUR ARM!
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Re: how hard do I have to throw to go D1

Rob T ·
The summer going into highschool, my son's team had 4 pitchers who could throw 80. Three of them are going to be pitching D1 next year, and the other will be at a solid D2. So, I would say your velocity is on track. As seniors they sit around 90. As has been said you need to keep working hard and improving. It's a big jump from 80 to 90, especially if you are already close to physically mature. Most importantly - grades. Every one of those pitchers is a good student, and one is going to an...
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Re: how hard do I have to throw to go D1

Gov ·
Great position to be in with current velo. BUT , because of that velo at your age, your Coaches will be looking to pitch you as much as they can get away with... Get your pitching instructor to help you define appropriate pitch count limits per game per week etc. Get your parents on the same page of those pitching limits so that they can help manage the health of your arm. Then talk about the limits with your club coach in a way that he's a partner in taking care of your arm. (He also wants...
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Re: how hard do I have to throw to go D1

2019Dad ·
As detailed in the thread I linked to, assuming you are a RHP, in the next 3 and 1/2 years, you need to add about 5 mph for mid-major -- sitting 86, touching 88-89 would match most of the kids. Probably about 8 mph for the very top Power 5 schools -- sitting 89, touching 91-92.
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RJM ·
Your velocity is great for your age. How tall are your mother and father? Given where you are now if it's affordable your parents and you should look into the New England Ruffnecks.
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Re: how hard do I have to throw to go D1

tanndonn ·
Pretty cool to have a 14 year old asking these questions on his own behalf. I would imagine that you'll get some very good information from people here. I will add: pitching becomes a 7 day a week proposition, it has to be approached as a job. There is something within your program to do every day and when you have an "off" day it is to be OFF. Rest and recovery are as important, if not more important than chasing velocity. Learn how to locate, learn to command the changeup. Devote time to...
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smokeminside ·
Gavin, hope you've read this far. Don't let the questions scare you! You have time, and you have a nice start. Impressed that you shared here, and I hope you can find a smart coach who will help bring you along.
 
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