Exactly what I was talking about. To answer your question, bluedog, yes. For clear evidence, consult the post from Max on page 4 and look at the clips. Watch their first moves down with the knob, then the barrel drops, then the back leg and top hand drive the barrel back through the zone. I do not wish to engage with you in any of your gibberish, I have more important things to do with my time. If you want a hitting lesson, meet me at the Disney's Wide World of Sports, I am there everyday of the week.