quote:Originally posted by TPM:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gingerbread Man:
On averge, in general, the CB is predominantly the best offspeed pitch in professiopnal baseball and overall is second only to the fastball.
Sorry to say, but that's what you said.
Then you changed it to the next best pitch was the breaking ball. But again, a breaking ball encompases many different type of pitches (and they are different and do differet things).
Then you changed that.
Please, asking again, show us in writing where the CB is the best "off speed" pitch in professional baseball second only to the fastball....not in terms on the HS level.
Just want to get straight where you get your facts and derive your conclusions from.
In other words try to make your information clear or don't make it at all. There is a definite difference between a slider and a CB. The slider is often times called the most effective pitch at the professional level (not talking HS baseball here) because it over powers and deceives. The CU by many may also be considered the best pitch by some.
In guess that, there is a lot that goes into the equation I suppose of figuring out, people spend lots of time collecting data that supports their theories, other than someone here just throwing out what they think is the best answer.
This is older data but seems to me if you want to decide which is the most effective pitch you have to consider balls in play and who the pitch is coming from.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/m...he-games-best-pitch/
Here's something you might find interesting:
http://www.startribune.com/spo...twins/125930578.html
GBM,
If you can find some newer info to support your statment on the CB (besides the guys chatter on ESPN) please post.