I do things to the extreme. In the 80's, I dipped for a few years in HS. Went to the lake and read a Readers Digest Article about a kid from my state who had his jaw removed. It said he was dipping heavily "a can every two days". I dipped a can a day. Had my last dip that night (32 years ago). sunflower seeds really helped. Gained 20 lbs in three months.....