quote:Originally posted by J H:
…I realize that this is nearly impossible to compute in high school for the same reasons listed above, but for college and above it is possible and quite easy for analysis.
What are you saying is impossible to compute for HS pitchers?
quote:Here is my question:
Theoretically, wouldn't opponent's OPS be a better indicator than WHIP? OPS factors all aspects of WHIP into its calculation plus acknowledges if the hit was an extra base hit or not. There's a big difference between giving up 10 singles in nine innings and 5 singles, 3 doubles and 2 home runs in those same nine innings. The results may or may not show up in ERA, but it would most certainly always show up in opponent's OPS.
You’re asking a question based on what some of us consider a pretty worthless metric to begin with. ERA is about on the same level as BA, as far as telling much about a pitcher.
As for whether OPS would be a better indicator, there’s something that has to be 1st determined. Indicator of what? Who’s the best pitcher? If that’s it, what’s the pool used to compare them, team, league, state?
In the end, no matter what someone wants to use the numbers to determine, the more factors that can be taken into account, assuming they’re tracked and factored in correctly, the better. So, just like WHIP is better than ERA, OPS would be better than whip. And, if one were to factor in other things, that would be better than OPS. But it still all depends on what one is trying to determine.
To a V coach looking to promote someone from the JV, it doesn’t make a lot of difference that there’s a kid who has the best numbers in the state for JV pitchers. To a college scout, knowing a pitcher had the best numbers in the league doesn’t mean a lot if the kids SATs won’t get him in the door. IOW, there has to be a reason to measure them.