Reply to "HBP on 4th ball of at bat"

JMoff1,000+ posts

If a pitched ball strikes a batter and he's awarded first base as a result, its a HBP, even if it would've been ball 4. The only significant difference is that the ball is dead on a HBP and live on a BB. The umpire calls the HBP and kills the play. On a BB, play on.

I will say that its sometimes hard to tell. If the pitch grazes the shirt and is caught by the catcher, unless you're watching for the umpire calling 'time out' you'll miss it.

Really not a significant difference in the result for the pitcher or hitter. There might be a slight effect on how OBP is calculated, as some include walks but not HBP in the caculation for reached base in on base percentage. I believe this is incorrect and the correct formula is:
OBP = (H + BB + HBP) / (AB + BB + HBP + SF)
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