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Chico Escuela posted:
2019Dad posted:

The max effort throw is for position players, right?

In my son's experience, the radar readings -- and a scouting report written by the assigned coach -- was shared with all the coaches after Day 1, but the radar readings were from the 1 inning thrown on Day 1. Of course, the scouting report/radar is not shared with the players (or parents!) but sometimes a coach in the dugout will tell a kid what it said -- at least that is what happened in my son's case.

I think all of that is correct.  Pitchers who also want to play in the field at HF were specifically told they could choose to skip the max velo throw (or any of the Day 1 skills part).

Not getting velo numbers or any other feedback is a little frustrating.  One tip I can offer:  My son said the catcher he threw to on Day 1 passed on some velo numbers he overheard the coaches discussing while son was pitching.  (In NY, coaches were behind a net screen on the field directly behind the C.)  If I were a P, I'd ask my catcher to keep his ears open and let me know what he hears.

I also was surprised that pitching evaluators were using pocket radars and were only measuring velo on a few pitches.  For almost $1,000 per player, I expected to see real radar guns on tripods with pitch data fed into a laptop.  I'm not complaining--just surprised.

Something I found interesting:  the coaches writing the pitching evals frequently told the catcher what pitch to call, so they could see different looks for each P.  The thing is, the batter could clearly hear the calls, too.  Which maybe shows (again) that college coaches really aren't looking at whether a pitcher gives up hits or a batter goes 4-for-4; instead I suppose they are more concerned about form / mechanics / projectability.  I think players often forget this (so do dads). 

Chico, funny story on that -- my son got lucky and knew his HF catcher well (they had played scout ball together last fall and go to rival high schools). At one point the catcher called a changeup and my son shook him off. The catcher puts down changeup again, my son shakes him off again, and the catcher, by way of explanation, points to one of the coaches behind the screen! lol, OK, changeup it is!

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