BucsFan posted:smokeminside posted:Just a follow up question which I hope is germaine. My understanding has been that Ivy's would not tell a kid they would commit to him before his jr. grades and test scores were complete. Is that inaccurate?
This is not accurate, although it has generally been the case (italicized words being the key). My son was offered by an Ivy 2 days before Christmas of his Junior year. They had seen him throw 3 or 4x, he got the SAT score that they told him he needed (got that score that very day, in fact...they told him if he met or exceeded a certain score, they were going to offer immediately, and they did exactly that), his GPA was strong and they liked the rigorous HS class schedule that he was taking (lots of APs). It was certainly unusually early for his school. But, I think you have and will see more of this, especially for pitchers. But, like all "commitments", thereafter, he had to keep up his end of the bargain in the class room. The Ivy coaches just have to be clear what that means, and in my son's case, they certainly were.
Such good company on this thread regarding this topic I feel the need chime in.
Only thing I will add regarding early commitment for IVY, ie. "before his Jr. grades and test scores were complete."
Yes, the ACT/SAT is a must. That has to be in place. Ivy admissions offices can not do an official pre-read on a candidate until AFTER July 1 of their rising Senior year. Not sure if that's NCAA or Ivy League policy? So a coach may "eyeball" a transcript and test score before July 1 of rising Sr year and offer based on their seasoned and trained eye from years of doing it. But it is not a perfect science. And if the prospect is a "bubble guy" meaning he is NOT a 4.0+ guy with 33+ACT score (for HYP anyway), the recruit is incurring a lot of risk. All of it.
The Ivy process can be somewhat straightforward if you are a legit 4.0+, 33+ACT candidate (again for HYP mostly) with baseball skills desired.
It can, however, be extremely treacherous if the player is a 3.7 to 3.9 GPA with 28-32 ACTs (or comparable SAT). I do not recommend committing to an Ivy if your player fits this profile until after July 1 of rising Sr. year. You can look, talk, inquire, but be careful about taking yourself off the market before an official pre-read by the Ivy admissions office of school offering. Again that can not happen until after July 1 of rising senior year.
I am not saying if you are a 3.7 to 3.9, 28-32ACT guy there's no room for you in Ivy recruiting. No, not at all. Look up guys in the IVY league on PG and you'll see a wide range of GPAs and test scores for all 8 schools. It's just the guys on the lower academic end are playing with fire to commit to an Ivy before an official admissions office pre-read can be done and that is only after July 1 of rising Sr. year.