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Stats4Gnats posted:

IEBSBL posted:

Very interesting....Other things that might factor.

  1.  Slide step utilized
  2. Also, which would take greater time.  What is the BA of players when (impact runner is on) vs BA when he is not.


Let me try to explain why some things are very difficult to track. I’ll use your #1 above.


No one other than me is tracking anything for the teams I score for. When I was scoring with a pencil and paper I made a little mark in the scoring box for every throw to a base where there was a runner, but I didn’t have a way to track fakes. I counted those marks for every runner, entered the data into the stat program, and could then report on it. While that was a lot more than most scorers could do, it was still pretty basic.


When I began scoring electronically, I built a function into the program to make it easier on me. I can either left click on a runner for a throw or right click for a fake, or what’s easier is typing a 1, 2, or 3 for a throw. Along with that, since the program knows who’s playing every position, when a throw is made the pitcher gets credit for the throw and either the F3, F6, or F5 gets credit for a “touch”. If the catcher makes the throw all I do is click on the runner, click on the fielder who made the throw then click on the fielder who caught the throw. It sounds complicated but believe me it’s simple.


What would I have to do to track whether the pitcher used a slide step, partial knee lift, or full knee lift? Of course I could set up something to grab that information, but believe me I already have so many questions to answer or choices to make, it’s not something I’d ever use myself. I’m bizzier than a long tailed cat in a room full of rockin’ chairs already, and don’t need to make things even more difficult. However, if the coach wanted to have someone else keep track of that stuff or anything else and give it to me, I’d gladly enter it into the system and report on it.


Your #2 would be pretty simple for me because I know where the runner(s) are at the end of every PA. So all I’d need to do was segregate the PAs where there was an “impact runner” on base, depending on what that was. Even though I think it’s a pretty useless stat, I already do a BAWRISP, so how would what you’re looking for be any different?

IMO here is how it is different.  If there is a plodder at 2nd base then the MIF do not have to dog his as much and can play further away from the bag.  Also the pitcher does not have to give him as much attention.  You have a rabbit on the bases then MIF have to do him more, play closer, and the Pitcher has to pay more attention to him.  IMO you probably would find that B.A. would increase with those guys on the bags as opposed to a guy with no speed.  Just a thought.