quote:“I believe wasting two years of a life in training just to play lower level college ball with no future past that is a waste of time.”
Nothing limits them from attending higher level Colleges accept ability.
This is the exact same scenario that playing college freshman and many sophomores find them selves in accept they are loosing two years of eligibility sitting on the bench.
Marshall’s kids can still attend College while training. It does not matter any way
Marshall is not accepting any more private clients but it was worthwhile seeing how it should be done with traditional changeovers.
quote:‘The kids should just go to college, move on with their life and find an adult league to play baseball for fun.’
This is what they are doing just like everybody else, taking one more shot at getting in the over hyped pros that 99.999% of them will never attain.
quote:“Do Marshallites think they've cormered the market on sensibility?”
No, answering your questions when you do not answer mine is a great way for youth players, fathers and coaches who want to learn this, more of an opportunity.
It’s just scientific information, this information as in all new information through out history must be ridiculed I guess for a while before people will forgive them for ruining the old way it was done. Changing mechanics in other sports has its history of intransigent disbelief but soon grows into an unstoppable force by way of its efficacy.
quote:“You're not telling me anything I didn't know before encountering the cult.”
I’ll bet you have not missed one Sunday of Marshall personal e-mails at his web site. You seem to enjoy encountering it weekly, welcome to the cult. This is where the obedience training comes in just after recruitment, please do not believe you are immune to your involvement because our mind control is top notch, Your volunteer work will not proceed until you have passed the creating powerful emotional experiences workshop that starts after the mind control 101 and 2 class which you are now attending here. The supreme leader will anoint you with a participation certificate at your in a final ceremony following the sacred ritual dance during intermission at the masquerade ball.
quote:“My kids have x-rays done as part of their annual and sometimes semi-annual sports medicine specialist checkup due to their heavy participation in organized sports since they were little.”
This is great, you are doing it correct.
quote:“Who cares! I never hurt my arm when it mattered (LL through college).”
Again, I know you don’t care! You are only here to disrupt, I got that.
I care! and when answering your inexperienced comments about Marshall’s
Research, I am not actually talking to you because I know you will never answer
any of my questions. My audience is not the discombobulater’s, they are just a tool.
Everyone prefers to win. Do you have what it takes to do what is right?
BobbleheadDoll,
quote:“Yardbird I will agree that no one will hurt their arm throwing like that kid in the video.”
And how would you know that? You have proven through your disrespectful posts that you have learned nothing going over to Marshall’s site.
quote:“My youngest daughter throws like that and she has never had a sore arm.”
Lets see a video; I don’t believe you on this? Two can play at this non sense.
Marshall says when young children (2 year olds) throw with out being taught they throw naturally with a high arm vector because they have a large head to body relationship size difference that makes it imperative to keep your center of mass centered and they rotate to throw with their elbows up which is correct and then we take them from there and change their mechanics to a dangerous Valgas torque position (UCL overstress) at initial and middle force application other wise known as the “magic 90”meaning the humerus is at 90 degrees from the rib cage and the fore arm is up at 90 degrees from the upper arm. This ¾ position arm vector is the result of an injurious gateway start over early rotation with all body parts.
MTS,
quote:“The frame rates are better than 30 frames per second my friend.”
Did you go back over it and realized what I told you was true that your angles and tightness wont allow you to diagnose this
quote:“The curveballs and sliders were not pronated.”
What were those tenets? You got one right.
quote:“They were bringing their arm across the chest when they threw their curveballs and sliders.”
This is why he gets a bad score here, good call! I’ll bet he gets a better score than the other guys there because he does train and pitch bully’s with his elbow and palm up at deceleration, trying to stick it in his back pocket but like all previously traditionally trained 10 year olds getting rid of neural signals is very difficult.
quote:“Why don't you show a clip of "your pitcher" in the AFLAC game?”
Why don’t you? Quid pro quo, I’m one up!
We will see how good you are at plucking out the tenets.
Or? Why don’t you just go with your gut and dis-believe.
quote:“ If we were playing poker I'd have your money because you'd have to show your cards.”
Look Maverick, I’ve already laid down and I’m holding pretty good!
When I look in your glasses I see your holding A’s and 8’s.
quote:“You want me to show my cards? Watch a MLB game.”
I would never ask you to show me your cards but yes the proliferation of higher level pitchers including the MLB learning the Sinking game and guys starting to straighten up, arrive in time and throw towards the inside center mass of your body rotation and finally learn the total pronated drive and release game is where my Tarot cards are telling me to go.
Pastime
Trnments,
quote:“My only question is you say all these guys were operating at 60% or just enough to stay healthy.”
Yes, It is a product of how far they want to go.
quote:“So you say this is your goal, so why not just accpet the 60% and stop trying to teach them the other 40%”
I actually have pitchers whom want to throw closer to traditionally and do but they are all aware of the risks and where they are, they do suffer from these associated injuries then apply a little more towards Marshall’s tenets and things calm down, they actually know where to take it in this regard. I have clients with ratings running all the way to an 8 at different ages and time spent. Our training regimen requires that the pitcher warm up doing a walk through Crow step on the mound with each pitch regardless of proficiency, with this I let them feel their own leg timing but try to keep the distances right for a late rotational finish. I have accepted it and am a total acquiescer when it comes to the father’s fear of mechanical repugnance. I have had many kids try out for HS that were very proficient with the full mechanic and wanted to keep it because it made them compete but are now playing other sports because these coaches when confronted with this dilema balked and did not hold live scrimmages like the good coaches do and they were gone. All of my clients now whether they have a bad or good rating are pretty expert at the full motion but develop their own style just like with traditional deliveries.
quote:“(this is the 40% that probably looks "funny") Then maybe you get some of your guys in the bigs. They have great success who knows maybe you change their thought process and can implement the other 40%.”
You have a keen sense! This is happening.
quote:”Also, you talk about all of the "traditional pitchers" that are injured.”
Yes, Marshall pitchers can actually pitch every day maximally although Marshall has a two-day between games scenario for adult pro players with a vigorous training schedule in between. Can you imagine an always healthy 3 man rotation only being allowed to pitch 3 time around the lineup then relief. Traditional pitchers whom even if they are throwing injury free are nicking away at several incorrect mechanical week points evidenced by the gateway injury inflammation.
quote:“Have you done extensive research on the ones that were not injured?”
I look at any pitcher and assign an MTS (Marshall Tenet Sum) rating to them,
Their Biological age makes the rating more sensitive for youth.
Level has no correlation in the rating.
There are many more that have been injured and multiple times than have not.
You should here the stories I hear every year for the last 30 years and witnessed when I was playing. Any body that in any way diminishes it is doing a dis service. We have witnessed whole starting staffs disappear many times at all levels.
quote:“Why are those pitchers all exceptions?”
Well, genetics and mechanical circumstances I believe dictate the outcomes.
If we were to pick just one and go over his history and actually get the entire discovery about his medical dealings in a career you might be able to talk about it. Good luck with that! Do you know how secretive arm and shoulder problems are in this game!! The worst being High school, like I said there are not many who get away from this.
quote:“It just seems like if you look all "traditional pitchers" (MLB, MILB, College) you would find more guys that were never hurt versus ones that were hurt.”
Here is where major injuries rule the day, high-level pitchers who are high fast twitch
Percentage arms produce in respect to velocity the same increase in micro breakdown
all the way to failure.
quote:“I have not done the research, but I am also not trying to change the thought process of over a million people.”
It is daunting I wish Marshall posted here, I’m sure I miss-quote him sometimes and interject my own experience with this stuff and that’s probably not fair.
Setting the record straight for what it is can only be done if you have actually gave it a go and then produced results positive or negative, so far the only negative is the traditional dance I have to play.
quote:“It can not be all luck can it?”
Time will heal all arms.