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Reply to "milb wages may be exempted by lobbyists"

luv baseball posted:
Dominik85 posted:
old_school posted:

You want make better money get promoted, or get real job. 

Supplu and demand dictates that MiLB players hold no value. It is that simple IMO

I don't agree. If you don't want to pay them  that is fine but then don't make them team controlled for 5 years and allow them free employer choice.

European soccer is capitalism but american sports is actually socialism (revenue sharing, draft, team control).

 

If mlb wants free demand and supply market get rid of team control and make everyone a free agent so you have to pay 20yo mike trout 50m per year.

But owners don't want that and have instead created a socialist system.

I'm open for teams having to pay minor leaguers nothing but then also don't have demands at them and let them sign with every team they want.

I mean google can also have unpaid interns, but they don't control the guy, if apple makes him an offer he is gone within a week.

Imo the very restrictive team control over players also means monetary responsibility, there are many low paid "minor leagues" in other industries but none of them controls the guy for a decade.

A minor league actor might not make anything either but if he gets an offer by Spielberg his former employer never sees him again.

If owners don't want to pay minor leaguers make minor leagues an independent league and make anyone a free agent. But don't keep them as slaves who can't change employer for half a decade.

If minor leaguers had no value teams should allow them to change franchise without getting anything back on a week's notice, shouldn't they.

 

 

This is a negotiated system with the MLBPA.  Marvin Miller understood that it was in the players interest that the game thrive and Free Agents trickle on the market rather than flood it.  

He understood that full free agency where every player being up for grabs after every season would create utter chaos and leave fans confused every season about who was on their team.  Instead he persuaded the players to the current system where the huge money is funneled to veteran players.  He also counted on guys like Steinbrenner to drive up salaries as revenue increased.  And that is exactly what happened.  I am not sure he would have been for revenue sharing and salary caps - but I doubt it.

I think going forward the players are going to want Free Agency sooner because without steroids the value of 30 year old players will not be what it has been.  31/32 year old players will not get 5/6 year contracts any longer.  They will get 1/2 year deals while clubs will continue to look to lock up promising 23-25 year olds on 5 year deals 2 years before they reach free agency.  The effect will be that very few players will be what Harper and Machado are this year which are top players at the height of their careers hitting the market.

 

Yes the union essentially sold the young guys. They essentially made a deal with the owners to overpay the veterans and underpay the young guys.

This worked well for both sides but the new smart GMs got greedy nd decided to stop overpaying old veterans which is a smart thing since they are bad but a problem because it broke the old agreement between union and owners.

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