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Originally posted by TPBulldogs35:
Trick I've learned with mine. If you're throwing 12 to 6 curves make sure you don't start to come 3/4 angle because then the 12 to 6 becomes a 2 to 7 and will start to hang up and in on righties. Make sure you really follow through when you're throwing it too.

Oh boy....
If you change your arm angle every time you throw a curve ball , good hitters will notice it and be fully prepared.

One trick to get it going more in the direction pf 12 to 6 is the grip. Yo want the thick part of the horse shoe pointing towards your body at release point . As the horse shoe gets thiner moving closer to you palm the axis of the ball corrects itself towards your 3/4 arm angle that should actually make it come out a little croocked.
look at pedro martinez... he is even lower than 3/4 and he has one of the nastiest 12/6 curves in the game. This is probably due to the fact that he has long fingers and can come around the ball a little more to adjust the axis of the rotating ball.
A 2 to 7 curve is phisically impossible. If it was it would mean that if the ball was half way through its braking process it would start losing the side ways break in the at first intended direction of 8 o clock *under the condition that the break of a curveball is linear* and gain more downward break and change the angle towards a full downward break from 30 degrees to 15 degrees.
I think TPBulldogs35 was trying to say that it would either be 2 to 8 or 1 to 7 .

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but a 1 to 7 or even 2 to 8 is probably more common than 12 to 6 . Only a couple of pitchers probably manage to throw a ball with top spin and its axis parallel to the front side of home plate.
In this case viewing the parallel lines from behin the pitcher ... so pretty much parallel to the ground.