Reply to "Pitched ball out of play past catcher"

piaa_ump5,000+ posts

Both of your situations involve "time of the pitch" rule applications.

Time of the Pitch:

Windup Position-TOOP occurs when the pitcher has commits himself to deliver the pitch to the batter.

Set Position-TOOP occurs the instant the pitcher, after coming to a complete and discernible stop, starts any movement with his arms and legs.

Situation 1. "At the time of the pitch" the runners legally held base was 1st. On a Pitched Ball out of play the award is one base. To have been awarded 3rd the runner would have had to have legally obtained second base before the time of the pitch. Umpires correct.

Situation 2. Must not be a NFHS game. NO need for pitches any more on an intentional walk. But ......the dead ball award does not piggy-back on result of the play.........Batter gets first only. Umpires Incorrect.

4/24/179:03 AM

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