The P5 was only ever interested in coming when he pitched. For high school, the coach would have him catch 5 innings, and then come in to pitch 2. For travel, he'll start and pitch 3 or 4, and then go in to catch. I know that's considered to be rough on his arm, but he's done it for years. They have stayed the whole game. I overheard him talking to other scouts saying "he's a two-way" but everyone tells me there is no such thing as a two-way pitcher/catcher.