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Reply to "Pre-reads and offers"

Dirtbag30 posted:
cabbagedad posted:

DCmom, you have the attention of a few of the most knowledgeable and helpful folks on the board regarding HA's.  Be sure to take advantage of that.  I will try to address more of this question...

"What does it really mean to have an offer from a D3? Is it different if it is a HA D3 where they don’t have pull with admissions? Or a D1 without scholarship?"

I have had the experience of sending several players to "somewhat HA" D3's.  Many of those schools, particularly some of the ones that are consistently successful on the field, will "over-recruit".  They will encourage as many good players as possible to enroll and come play baseball.  Lots of decent to average players will find themselves either cut in the Fall or buried on the bench or JV squad.  The schools/coaches have motivation to build enrollment and add talented players and with no athletic $ to offer, often it is the coach showing interest and asking if the player will come and be part of the program that helps fulfill both of those objectives.  They have very little to lose.  So, if you sense this may be the case, the player must ask pointed questions about where the coach sees him fit and when.  There are ways to really dig down... "are there any circumstances, barring of course grade or behavior, that would I NOT be on the Spring roster and competing for PT?".

This has been my concern about the whole D3 thing and seems to present a real dillemma, particularly since any coach answer to these suggested questions is non-binding and unenforceable.  In other words, if he tells a kid "absolutely not; you'll be on that roster absent something like that" but then isn't, the kid has no recourse.

Seems the only way to avoid this is due dilligence on the coach to determine whether, historically, his answers to questions like these are reliable, right?  

Dirtbag30 - So I think some healthy concern is valid for HA D3s.  However, I think some targeted questions are necessary to figure out where your son stands in the coaches recruiting pool.   For most D3 HA candidates it is about making the admissions number that a normal student would need to make, and being guaranteed a roster spot.   I would not hesitate to ask the Coach if he can help with admissions (called a "tip") and if I was assured of a roster spot on his team.   Every year a couple to a few recruits are guaranteed "slots".  These are the recruits most coveted by Coach. Each school has different metrics  to determine slots, so your mileage may vary from one school to another or one conference to the other.   So, when in the D3 HA recruiting mix it is a fair question to ask the Coach how much help he is willing to give you through a "tip" or a "slot".    

Good luck!

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