Originally Posted by Skylark:
For what it is worth- I watch a lot of pro ball and I see guys with horrible CU's- not any different than high school. We talk about a big league change-up and stuff but in reality the only real difference is velocity. I see professional pitchers who slow the arm motion down, change arm slot, etc. when throwing their cu. On the flip side I have seen kids in hs with scarier than @#%$ change-ups. There are fewer kids in hs that throw convincing cu's, but you see the same thing in professional ball too. Not very many professional p[itchers who use a cu as their out pitch- just not convincing enough.
Other than you might watch of "lot of pro ball" (does that still mean the Pioneer league) there really is not much validity to anything in your post. Pitching coaches far and wide would be getting fired left and right if, in Milb and in MLB, they were turning out pitchers who telegraph their change in the ways described in this post.
The continued attempt to suggest HS pitchers/pitches are of the the same or better quality as those in MLB or the higher levels of Milb is awfully good evidence of a poster lacking knowledge or credibility.