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Originally Posted by Soylent Green:

But anyone who watched the man pitch throughout the 80s knows he was a dominant competitor who could and did shut down the best in the game... And always when it counted most.  

Well, except for this game

 

http://www.baseball-reference....N/MIN198710080.shtml

 

And these

 

http://www.baseball-reference....R/TOR199210070.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference....K/OAK199210110.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference....L/ATL199210170.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference....R/TOR199210220.shtml

 

Jack Morris was  very good pitcher for some very good teams, but except for the shape of their careers and some post-season glory he wasn't a whole lot different in value to his teams than someone like Jamie Moyer or Frank Tanana.

 

For the "dominant pitcher of the era" stuff, BTW, try looking at an HOF pitcher's career, and see if anyone put up better numbers during that player's actual career. So, for Morris, look at only the years 1977-1994. Note that this should bias the numbers in favor of the guy you're looking at (since almost anyone in the neighborhood of that player should be having seasons cut out of their totals, since very few players' careers overlap completely).

 

By WAR, Morris is 12th in his career span, behind guys like Frank Viola, Bret Saberhagen, Mark Langston and Dave Stieb.

 

Blyleven is first in his career.  Gaylord Perry is 2nd in his. Curt Schilling is 5th in his, Glavine 7th in his.

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