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Originally posted by dash_riprock:
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Originally posted by Mr Umpire:
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Originally posted by dash_riprock:
The plate umpire violated a rule. Maybe the base ump was doing him a huge favor by saving him from a successful protest. And it is by no means a hijack. If the plate ump is asked to check with his partner, by rule it becomes the base ump's call.
Though the PU violated the rule, it does not become the BU's call by rule. At least, not under OBR while I know this JUCO and I am not familiar with a change to it they may have made.
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The manager or the catcher may request the plate umpire to ask his partner for help on a half swing when the plate umpire calls the pitch a ball, but not when the pitch is called a strike. The manager may not complain that the umpire made an improper call, but only that he did not ask his partner for help. Field umpires must be alerted to the request from the plate umpire and quickly respond. Managers may not protest the call of a ball or strike on the pretense they are asking for information about a half swing.
You have the right rule (9.02(c) Comment), you just need to read a little further down. The PU must appeal if asked (on a called ball), and if the BU calls it a strike, then by rule, it is a strike.
Yes, but no where does it say the BU calls it without the appeal. If the PU doesn't appeal, then BU says nothing. The only exception is the PBUC mechanic on a Voluntary Strike but that is reserved specifically to a potential U3K where the batter may become a runner. Again, no rule suggests it at all.
