El Gato - I'm with you. You stated much better the point I was trying to get across earlier in this thread.....results count more than velocity. I think the point others are making is that velocity gets you noticed for recruiting purposes. In order to play (college or pro) you have to be noticed first, and the quickest way to get noticed is velocity. I get it. I think one area that gets overlooked alot is the number of pitches a pitcher has command of. One pitcher may have an A+ fastball but a C- curve ball as a opposed to another pitcher who has B fastball, B knuckleball, B slider, B change. Then it becomes a tougher pick.