WOW!..."Same old same old from the same old same olds"...Read the first three posts of this thread again. I propose (from someone who does not "have a dog in this fight") that the balance of the thread would have been somewhat different with a large number of other posters. There was no "slight" indicated in the initial post(merely an inquiry). It was created by the posts thereafter, plain and simple. My shoulders would give me constant pain if I were to have to carry the chips that some apparently have...