Teacherman your last post was right on the money. You have to get to them when they are young you really do. It is extremely hard to change a swing of an older player. Especially the ones that have had some success as well. There are kids with poor swings that have had sucess because the level of the pitching they have been facing is very weak. Most kids that struggle, struggle because they have been taught very poor mechanics or none at all at a young age and they have been reinforced over and over and over. If you can get to them when they are younger you can (save them) and help them alot. I have always said I would rather have a kid come in that has never been taught anything than taught the wrong way very well.