Dash - sorry for clouding the issue regarding running at the runner - he would have stepped off and that prevents any balk call. My question really dealt with doing the up and over while R1 is moving towards second. Your post reads, to me anyway, that if the throw goes to 2b and the runner returned to first, you will call a balk and award second. Can you site the rule or is that an interpretation? We had the play several times last summer – hence the interest. Thanks.