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Reply to "Winning, losing and building a program"

PGStaff posted:

Winning at the HS level can be very difficult.  Too many things beyond your control.

Winning at the college level (any level) is much easier.  There are coaches that I am certain will win big, no matter where they go.  It is true in all sports, not just baseball.  I think a lot of folks knew what would happen when Vanderbilt, Florida, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Liberty, etc., hired new coaches.

Sure many have obstacles to overcome.  Academic requirements, small recruiting budgets, facilities, no athletic scholarships, losing program, etc.

IMO, these are obstacles, not excuses.  Winners simply figure out what needs to be done in order to win. Talent, Effort, Intelligence, Luck... Those are the ingredients for success in players and they are also the ingredients for success in coaching.  Some just want it more than others.

how would you weigh recruiting skill vs Coaching/Managing skills? in some cases they are probably related (especially pitchers who aspire to pre pros sometimes Chose programs with well regarded pitching coaches) but still getting top Talent is of course related to success.

good coaches probably recruit better but that might also be influenced by top coaches chosing programs which have enough Money to recruit the top guys (although they also might have the skill to get more Money from the college he works for)

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