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Re: The 411 on helping your son play College Baseball
As I posted before you’re inaccuracies are not worth the response. But the one thing that really validates you don’t have a clue is players don’t sign NLI’s unless they are receiving athletic money. Even D1 recruits not receiving money don’t sign them. Keep it coming You’re entertaining. Don’t forget your meds.
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......and you would not sign an nli for the ivies.....no athletic $$, no nli....that said, the ivies will give the most reasonable needs based financial aid.....and cant we all just get along...lol.
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I'm all in favor of having as many personal experiences available online as possible. People who google "college baseball recruiting" will find your blog entry, will find this site, and will find many other things. Many people (we were certainly among those) will not know anything about the subject, and won't know what to believe. I think that the reason you are being criticized here is that your son is going to play at a D3 school, but you aren't transparent about that in your blog entry.
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Iowamom: ahhhh, anyone who has read my article knows I stated D3s don't give "athletic" scholarships. They give academic scholarships. Neither do the Ivy League schools. And I never said "anything nasty" about you. And yes, every signing ceremony is just that...a ceremony.
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Baesballmom: LOL. Yes, I get paid. You are funny.
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Thanks Anotherparent: Correct, my son will play D3 at a top academic school. Had opportunities to play at other D3, NAIA, JC as well. He has a high SAT/ACT and great grades. Healso was recruited by two D2s, but the school are not as prestigious and the love from the coaches wasn't nearly as much as he got from the school he is going to play for. The money we got was also substantially more than any athletic money we could have gotten elsewhere. We made a decision to focus on D2, D3, and NAIA...
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"By the way, D3 players (dont know why you are slighting them) do sign commitment letters. see: https://www.nsr-inc.com/scouti...ment-letter-to-sign/ " Those are ceremonial only, and I doubt that many schools use them. My son's does not. "Players that sign D3 commitment letters get full rides to their schools." Hahahaha. Do they get a pony too? It would be nice if that was true, but it's not.
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Letsgo: You say, "the ivies will give the most reasonable needs based financial aid." They don't differentiate between students and athletes. Ivys go by a simple formula. If you make good money, even though your boy is a stud, expect to play $80,000. You will pay the same any family will pay with the same financial situation. Many D3s can work with parents and will offer specific academic scholarships or grants to help families pay the tuition. I have found D3s have much more leeway than the...
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JCJ: Again, 77% of D3 schools have a student body under 2,999. https://www.ncaa.org/sites/def..._edited_20180119.pdf
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Oh, and for all you high brows who dispute that D3 athletes have signing ceremonies, here you go: https://www.dpsk12.org/dps-sen...ational-signing-day/ Go ahead, disparage them you supportive community, you!
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Ivys go by a simple formula. If you make good money, even though your boy is a stud, expect to play $80,000. Once again, not true. A family with one kid, a 100K income and 500K in assets pays under 25K per year for Harvard. 125K, under 30K per year. 150K, under 35K per year
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I was not insinuating that other schools cannot provide merit based aid..i.e. academic scholarships. I was simply pointing out that as it relates to the "formula" that ivies apply to needs based aid, they are much more generous than most other institutions. At least that was my experience. I think it's important for families to understand if they aren't making six figures the ivies may be more affordable than they could imagine. If you value that type of education/experience it may be worth...
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I think everyone is splitting hairs on this......I would encourage everyone to have a signing ceremony....its a great accomplishment/milestone. Signing an nli, however, comes with quite a few strings...its at that point that the verbal commitment becomes an actual binding agreement.....that can only be undone with actual reprecusions.
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True Letsgo!!. I agree. Any player who works hard enough to get to play college ball should be celebrated. But yes, once you sign that NLI for a D1 or D2, you are entering in to an agreement that you play for their pay. You quit, there goes your scholarship (for the most part). But with D3s once you are accepted, you can quit down the road, and you will still keep whatever academic dollars they gave you, because it was not an "athletic" scholarship. Coaches will not be too happy though as...
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Letsgo!!, I just read your other post. Yes, if you come from a family that is not well off and you have D1 talent, you have the possibility of going for peanuts. I know many players might want to choose an LSU over a Harvard, but man, that Harvard degree will be worth its weight in gold.
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To keep your athletic $$ you must be a good citizen, stay eligible and not quit.........academic money can have other requirements - maintain specific GPA (mich higher than eligibility). At the end of the day you need to ask questions and read the fine print. The academic money they may show you may only be for one year..or four.....the same can be said for athletic money (although I'm pretty certain p5 must give aid for 4 years)
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RJM: "Good money" for me is over $200,000. I guess it's all relative. Don't forget to add housing, meal plans, and travel costs. It all adds up.
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All i did was quote you. Unlike you i made no personal, ad hominim attacks. Where are the admins?
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The admins are here, and this thread is closed. Rocky, it’s bad form to post a link to an outside source as your first post and then get aggressively defensive when members take the trouble to read your article and share their honest reactions to it. If you want to continue posting here, play more nicely.
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Re: D3 Scholarships?
Hello, Call the school that you are interested in and try to set up a school visit, you will be able to meet with the admin group and also talk to the coach when you visit. There are only academic scholarships in D3 level no sport scholarships. Good luck,
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Originally Posted by jlaro: Hello, Call the school that you are interested in and try to set up a school visit, you will be able to meet with the admin group and also talk to the coach when you visit. There are only academic scholarships in D3 level no sport scholarships. Good luck, this is true, however, there is also some academic money out there for players who would not have gotten it if they didn't play...bottom line is you still need to be a good student.
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May I ask why you limited your question to DIII? DII schools offer athletic scholarships, and junior colleges are typically much less expensive than DIII.
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I know that the school my son attends prides itself on diversity. There are Scholarships targeted at international students. For instance I did a search, for scholarships on the Web site of my sons school and came up with this. http://choose.owu.edu/financia...onalScholarships.php I am sure this school is not the only one to offer scholarships to international students. I believe the deadlines are different as well. You may want to narrow your search to the schools you know offer...
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I am only considering Divison 3 schools since I am looking for a great education.
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My wife went to a Juco then graduated summa cum laude from UCLA. She believes that she got a great education. My former coaching partner went to a D2 Cal State. He founded a large corporation and is stinking rich. He also feels that he got a great education.
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As with anything in life you will get what you put into it. While I consider myself an advocate of D3 schools, you can get a great education going many routes. Junior college is a great option, and cost effective. If you have the drive to learn, you can get a great education anywhere. I know people who did not go to college yet they still feel they got a great education, in the working world.
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Originally Posted by shotatsuda: I am only considering Divison 3 schools since I am looking for a great education. There are certainly some top academic D3 schools, some of the best in the country. However there are just as many, if not more D1&D2 top academic schools which offer both academic and athletic scholarship money. Furthermore, some of these schools are even public(i.e. Univ. Of Virginia or UCLA) so tuition is much lower. So if the only reason you are limiting yourself to D3 is...
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Are you planning to enter college in the fall of 2015? If so, some of that scholarship money is already spoken for. As with athletics, I think you'll also find some overlap in academic distinction between DII and DIII colleges. But as others have advised, a "great education" means different things to different people. What does "great education" mean to you? High paying job after undergrad? Impressive diploma? Great resume for graduate school? Intellectual challenge? Think carefully about...
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Originally Posted by MidAtlanticDad: I am going to attend college in fall of 2016. I am planning to start my recruitment process next spring by making a video. For me and my community/high school, I believe a college that offers a good education means a good job after undergrad. I am not really sure what I would like to do, but for now I am looking for schools that have good reputations. I have a 3.5 GPA and trying to get a 2000+ on my SAT.So a good Liberal Art school sounds like a right fit...
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I believe I am not good enough to play at a division one programme. I just don't have enough tools. I am well aware of that. I am 5'7 155 Lbs and not fast for a middle infielder. (I am trying to run under a 7.5 by next spring.) I believe division 3 schools are the right fit for me. However I will do some research on some D2 schools. Thanks for the reply. Originally Posted by shotatsuda: I am only considering Divison 3 schools since I am looking for a great education. There are certainly some...
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Thanks for the reply, I completely agree you can get a good education whereever you go, but it is important that I can go to a school with good reputation.
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shotatsuda, Here are the six schools that offer need blind and full need admissions to international students : MIT, Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Massachusetts Harvard University in Massachusetts Princeton University in New Jersey Yale University in Connecticut Dartmouth College in New Hampshire Amherst College in Massachusetts Amherst & MIT are both D3 and the other four are Ivy League schools which are D1. If you are admitted to any of these colleges you will be able to...
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Re: Are College Camps Wort It?
Swagg: Welcome to the site. From your profile I see you are a 2021 RHP. It's early in the recruiting game, unless you are in the small % that the P5 are looking at. I would have a better vibe if the college had CALLED, not e-mailed your HS coach. At your stage I would look to find a third party (PG or UA) or an inexpensive showcase that can get your measurables (MPH , primarily) for pitching. I think "school specific" camps are good, later on. After attending $$ showcases, tournaments , etc,...
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Did your son attend this fielding camp after the school/coach had expressed serious interest? I ask because often when my son emails a school, he gets an email response that is really just a form camp invitation. I assume going to a camp in that case is unlikely to generate real interest from a school, unless a player really offers something pretty extraordinary?
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Welcome to the site! My player is also a 2021, and I can tell you that lots of D1 schools are actively recruiting rising sophomores right now (especially pitchers). We were at a big 15u tournament last week that had dozens of colleges scouting the games, including P5 and mid-level schools. So it is possible that this school is interested in you specifically since they emailed your coach. That being said, it is also true that many college "prospect camps" are money makers. You should ask your...
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Chico: Son was on the radar with school and had e-mail communication (probably at least once every 6 or so weeks) with the coach. He had become a "high follow" with coach once he ran fastest 60 at a Showball showcase with 225 players in December. Coach sent son nice personalized e-mail which really changed him from "camper" to prospect. The camp was during President's Day or MLK weekend, and a hitting camp the day before (same coach) was full. Unlike previous meetings with this specific...
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Camps are tricky. You could go to most team's camp and see 100 kids with that one group of 5-6 players grouped together. That group will be the "recruits". The challenge is to know whether you are being considered for that group. Typically the "emails" are marketing to get $$. My 2015's experience was if a RC said to him that they liked his play and wanted all the coaches to see him then the camp was considered. This camp was also used as our unofficial visit opportunity and would go to the...
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Swagg - Welcome to the site. I agree with Ripken and the other posters to find some inexpensive camps to "get your feet wet" and get some measurable's first unless you know that the school has you on their board already. I would also suggest multi-school camps to increase your exposure to many coaches at a cheaper price. I believe that once a school has shown legit interest in you then the individual school camp makes good sense, but not until you have had some sort of dialog with the...
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Swagg, You mentioned your "coach" in your post. I assume this is either your high school or travel coach. Have you asked him as you are getting started on this recruiting journey? We all have to start somewhere. For us, it was son's national travel coach who opened some doors and showed us the ropes until we were able to zero in on what exactly son wanted, and what schools were looking for someone like him. His travel coach was a great sounding board as he had been through this countless...
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Great point. I recommended he ask his HS coach in my original post because I thought that’s who the school had emailed. I should’ve said to speak with whichever coach they emailed. Like FenwaySouth, our travel coach has been the main point of contact for all 5 of the kids who have committed from our team so far.
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Swagg, personally, I wouldn't recommend attending any college camp without speaking to one of the coaches beforehand. As a rising sophomore, college coaches are not permitted to call you directly, but they can talk to you if you call them. That kind of phone call is typically arranged by your travel or high school coach. If you can get the coach on the phone, there's a decent chance that he's serious about recruiting you. Once on the phone you can ask him if he thinks your talent level plays...
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It really depends on the school. My son has been to three college camps without talking to the coaches or being identified first. Two of the camps he was asked to stay and tour the facilities (pre new rules) and began conversations with them after the coaches followed up with my son’s coach. The 3rd camp was a waste of time and they didn’t even look at him. My son sent some video the next day and they called his coach...they didn’t even know he was at the camp. It was run by players and...
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There’s great advice on here about showcases, etc. I will add that my 2018 and a HS teammate were both invited to a P5 college camp their sophomore year the same way—through HS coach. Went and received an evaluation in the mail with essentially a “don’t call us, well call you” note on it regarding recruiting. Two years later, my son is throwing 90, same school invited him to another camp. He went, they offered that day and we just finished orientation. His teammate had the same experience. A...
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If it helps you advance your chances of an offer, then do it. Location, cost and communication from the school are what would move me to attend. Bear in mind that these are fundraisers to pay their community coaches and cover other costs so while emails and calls are made to HS/travel coaches, these are more cattle calls than true prospect invites.
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Tons of great info given here already. I second what Midatlanticdad says... get some dialog from the school prior to the event. Ask some specific questions about where they may have seen you, what they like/don't like, what their interest level may be, etc. Between this and more feedback from your coach, you will get a much better idea of whether there is genuine interest or just another camp invite to generate $$. It is usually a better sign of some specific interest when they go thru your...
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Having reread your OP... First, a question... is it safe to assume the school is in state or nearby? Second, to try to answer your question "what would be the best route to actually get recruited?", it is different for everyone. It is usually some combination of finding the right travel team, selecting the right events, having the right instructors, etc., but can be made to work with any budget. It depends largely on your talent level and what you want from a school. It usually requires a...
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Thanks guys for all the insight. I’ll definitely take this into consideration, hopefully it’ll work out as it should. Best of luck to all
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The camp is a 4 day camp, and the school is a short drive away. I personally feel as a player it would be a great opportunity given the location and the exposure. I just want to make sure I spend my dollars in the best, most prospective opportunities. Has Prep Baseball Report showcases been a good third party event? There is one near me, would it be better as a rising sophomore to invest in that? Thanks to you and everyone else who has given feedback!
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FYI. In some situations, if the camp is advertised as elite for hitters and or pitchers, they are run by the HC, PC, RC. Other camps are usually run by volunteer assistant (thats part of their job) and players. These invitations usually are generated from interest either from the coach or the recruit and are smaller than regular camps. However, some camps are excellent in instruction and should be considered if the cost is reasonable.
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Depends on what kind of rep PBR has in your state, and which specific event even in a good state. In my state and surrounding states, PBR is good and has one “main” showcase event each year that draws the most scouts. They offer several other showcase options in our state but those other options are not well scouted at all. Those showcases will at least give you your measurables, but there may be less expensive options for those in your state. My 2021 is doing a PBR showcase this year, but...