Tagged With "Catching"

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Catching mask

Backstop1512 ·
Okay guys, so I am a catcher recently going into High School. I have worn a hockey mask for all my life. I haven't had much problems with it. I have an All Star MVP4000 and I love it. As I continue to get older I keep seeing more and more traditional...
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Pitching vs, Catching

TideFanRTR ·
We have a 2022 kid (5'7" & 175 lbs) and are looking for advise. He is a RHP and his top FB velocity last summer was 79. He is part of a competitive travel team and participated in five PG tournaments summer/fall and made the All-Tournament Teams in four of the five for pitching and all five for hitting. (The one he missed for pitching was due to an injury where he did not pitch. ) I understand the All-Tournament Teams is not a big deal but mention it as back ground information. He also...
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2019 C/Utility out of England

benbritain2019 ·
I have little to no context of skill or coaching as a player in the United Kingdom, as the baseball infrastructure here is severely lacking. I'm 6'0, 175lb, with a hand-timed record pop time of 2.05. I try and self-coach as much as possible when practices are few and far between, emulating players on Instagram and YouTube. I've played international baseball with Team GB, which is probably at the same level as US high school, and I have a career average in those tournaments of .445. I will be...
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POP TIME HELP NEEDED

Wesleythecacther ·
Here is a link to video that I took today: https://youtu.be/LYaIejiLi30 Any advice for catching? I felt like my throws were good and quick, but I timed them at 2.2, nothing below 2.0 which I think I can get. Any advice for mechanics?
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Catcher Skills

Wesleythecacther ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdHr6JAOE2s   Here is a link to my video from Baseball Factory. Here is a link to my Baseball Factory page: http://members.baseballfactory...er/_/109066/#member/   Can I have any catching advice, more on...
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How do I sharpen up my fielding game?

Raymond ·
I really aspire to be a consistent fielder so much so that a gold glove is worth more than any hitting award to me usually. Its a sign of a ballplayer and 95% fielding is just a cool part of the game to me. I love catching deep flyballs and taking infield, but grounders are my favorite to work with. I'm consistent with my grounders as I field the vast majority of them but the ones I mishandled are almost always weak ones that pop up (on the ground/hop not off the glove) after practically...
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Kevin A ·
I understand this post is old but for others looking it for reference, i see a few things wrong with technique... Your getting way to vertical when you throw. Think of a sprinter...They dont stand up to run...They start out low and streamed line... When you launch....you should be doing the same... Also your sitting flat, catching the ball (getting that pop) and then starting your feet movement. You should be already moving as the ball pop's the glove. I call it "cheating". I will tell my...
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freddy77 ·
I wonder what college coaches think when they receive a recruiting video that indicates a pop time on the title page, and then proceeds to display a 1/2 dozen throws where the catcher is prematurely rising out of his receiving stance ("cheating")?
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freddy77 ·
Not to be argumentative, but when I observe this, I count it as a negative. To the bare eye, what you describe would suggest to me that the catcher is "running with the ball" --taking extra steps. I envision a catcher's jumpshift/throw/followthrough occurring within the confines of (large) phone booth. But I'm no expert. Just my 2 cents.
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Kevin A ·
My son takes one step follow through...Go "through" home plate as opposed to the side (think of falling off a mound). The video is showing the catcher standing up and lift his rear leg but not really following through...This will help generate power....
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freddy77 ·
I apologize, I didn't watch the video. ______ Edited to say: I just watched the video, and was impressed that the OP was able to get rid of the ball compactly and quickly, without cheating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...amp;feature=youtu.be
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Kevin A ·
No problem.... And I am by far no an expert.... Just an observation...
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Buckeye 2015 ·
Coaches know "cheating" when they see it. If you're making a video DO NOT cheat and also don't put pop times you timed yourself on the video....there's no way to verify them. If you're at a showcase that has coaches watching....don't cheat so much that it's obvious. Sure your POP time will look good to the coaches who read the review the next day, but you're trying to impress the coaches who are WATCHING! You tell your kids as they are growing up...."nobody likes a cheater"....why would you...
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Kevin A ·
Your associating the word "cheat" with being dishonest. It is a word that I use to remind my son of a few items while preparing to receive. It was also taught to him by a former MLB catcher. It simply refers to shifting his body and feet AS he is receiving the ball instead of AFTER which is both legal and taught. Saying "cheat it" is easier than saying " don't forget to initiate your footwork as your receiving the ball. Don't wait". I'll also say cheat up if I thinks he's too far back or...
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Kevin A ·
Freddy- Proper technique is for the receiving to initiate as he is receiving the ball. Coaches watching this will see a catcher who has received advanced instruction. Every coach with catching experience has complimented my 14 year old on this technique... The term "cheat it" was used by a former MLB coach and we added it to our terminology.
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Buckeye 2015 ·
I wasn't associating it with breaking rules. My son has played for and trained with 3 different former MLB pitchers. He caught for one of them. They all basically said the same thing.....don't cheat because what if the pitch is in the dirt?? Quote: "you're screwed and your pitcher is mad....catch every pitch as if you expect it in the dirt"......good advice. I guess maybe you have time to initiate footwork then change your mind as a 14U kid.....but it's a lot tougher at 16U/17U when kids are...
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Kevin A ·
If the pitch is in the dirt he's blocking first..... he has time to determine if the pitch is one he is throwing down on or having to receive before initiating...and there shouldnt be any surprise pitches as he already knows what pitch he called.... And yes he is catching kids in the 80's. Our stud HS pitcher is high 80's. Not sure why this seems so difficult...
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thanks for the reply. I completely forgot about this post. I have improved and my arm strength has gotten better as I had been hitting the weight room for the past couple months. High school senior season starting Monday and I am excited. I also have committed to a D1 JuCo as of December, I signed my LoI. I will try to get newer video up sometime.
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Wesleythecacther ·
From my college recruiting experience I can tell you that they are not impressed and will want to see you in a game to see how you do.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thanks for the reply. What does OP mean? haha. That is my video that I took months ago. I have gotten better as I have been in the weight room and my arm strength has gotten better along with mechanics.
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freddy77 ·
"initiate your footwork as you're receiving the ball." "You should be already moving as the ball pop's the glove." Kevin, Credit to your son that he's able to do this without mis-handling the pitch. I get a genuine impression that he's advanced for his age. I'm skeptical, however, that "initiate your footwork..." is good advice regarding game-throws for the typical HS catcher .
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PGStaff ·
The master... Is he cheating? Try to stop the video on first pop of catchers glove and check out his position. What would college coaches think? http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/6...don-of-a-stolen-base
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Kevin A ·
PG- What I see is he has a slightly turned body while waiting to receive. As he is receiving the ball he has already initiated his body to turn as the ball hits the mitt. In the initial posters video, he never moves till after the ball hits the mitt. This was what I was trying to get the initial poster to understand. And if I recall his video he was completely square to the pitcher during his throw downs...I would also have him in a stance where his right foot would be slightly behind the...
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GoldenGraham34 ·
Congrats on your commitment Wesley!!! That's great to hear!
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thank you! I am super excited. Just can't wait to start lifting again. Got to stop because high school season starts next week.
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Kevin A ·
https://www.catching-101.com/ cms/wp-content/uploads/2017/ 03/lucroy_warmup.gif Here is Lucroy "cheating" receiving a pitch while warming up. Freddy- Why dont you tell me what major league teams, college teams would say about it...
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freddy77 ·
I don't know about MLB or college. But I think that a typical HS catcher increases his risk of mishandling the pitch if he's coached to try to get a headstart on his jumpshift (In a game.) Especially on lower pitches.
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Ripken Fan ·
For "infield" fielding, Coach Frawley and Coach Correa are two of the best. Both their twitter pages include many instructional video snippets- and talk about fundamentals and improving infield technique. https://twitter.com/INFchatter https://twitter.com/thatguy__kai?lang=en
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RJM ·
If the kid loves to pitch he should continue to pitch. It amazes me how many people make a plan for the future that cuts out the present enjoyment. Don’t forget to enjoy today. High school and travel ball are fun. Plus they’re the bird in hand. You can’t guarantee future pleasure in baseball. Don’t obsess on level of play at college. Find an opportunity that is the best potential baseball, academic and social experience regardless of level. Once college is over what level is played is...
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cabbagedad ·
Let's take inventory... You know the kid loves to play and is a good player. You know he doesn't currently have D1 measurables and size and may not reach that going forward. You've learned the velo, projected velo and size are certainly parts of the equation with regard to college recruiting at the D1 level. You mentioned he has been told catching skills are high and it may be his ticket to a mid- D1... although there is a little bit of confusion to that point as you also say when he doesn't...
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PABaseball ·
I'm sure he is a good catcher, but at 5'7 he doesn't have any tickets. Size is important and he is still growing. For now all he can do is continue to eat and hope he sprouts up in the next year. If you're wondering why your 5'7 mid-high 70s son isn't getting looks as a pitcher it's because there is nothing for a college coach to look at. Getting outs and having a low ERA at 15 does not project as anything. Height and velocity does. So his coach is right, he is somebody that can pitch well...
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meads ·
A bit off topic, but the relationship between a pitcher and catcher is important. DS is a pitcher (1 of 6 on his team) and we have 3 catchers. DS keeps getting paired up with one and he tells DS to throw only FB's and DS shakes him off but he signals him to throw a FB anyways. I did ask my DS, can't you shake him off and throw what you want and he said not really because if the catcher is set to catch a FB and he throws a slider, and the catcher misses it, it affects him... I told DS to talk...
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Gunner Mack Jr. ·
DS needs to speak first the catcher who keeps calling fastballs so he can understand the reason why. They should try to get on the same page first before anything is asked of the coach. No good will come of going around his catcher to the coach until they (pitcher and catcher) come to an impasse.
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meads ·
He has already spoken with the catcher multiple times. The catchers response is “ do what I tell you” 🤷‍♀️
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fenwaysouth ·
OP, Can your son hit? I've seen my share of outstanding defensive catchers in high school and college. All three of my boys were primarily pitchers in high school but also played the field and hit. In college, nothing separates a catcher from another catcher like being able to hit. Switch hitting catcher...double bonus. IMHO catcher is THE most important position on the field. He always needs to know what is going on in both dugouts, be a step ahead, and get a feel for the flow of the game.
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LousyLefty ·
My son asked the coach if he could have some additional bullpen time with the catcher that was struggling with his slider and wouldn’t call it during games. Saying he “just needs time to get used to it”. It was a valid point as my 2022 is (obviously from my moniker) a lefty. Also a passive aggressive way of bringing the coach into the situation. But I do understand your son’s frustration. My son loved it when he was pulled up to pitch varsity games because the catchers would call what they...
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cabbagedad ·
More background needed... what level program? fall games? is regular coaching staff on hand? is there a P coach? is C calling on his own or getting signs relayed? is C and upperclassman and P underclassman? will C be the likely starter going forward? what's DS? could this be beginning of practice season when P's generally are directed to throw only FB's? is this 100% of the time or just most of the time?
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meads ·
Club level - 16u team. Fall season. No P coach, but 3 coaches are there. Catcher makes his own calls. The C is the primary one. DS stands for Darling Son 😂 The C calls FBs most of the time. My son and the other P’s can throw sliders and curves. Some are better than others. My son and 1 other are the top 2 for the team And as far as bullpen time: my son has asked numerous times for him and C to get together with us doing the driving and open to the C’s schedule and C says he can’t.... this C...
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cabbagedad ·
Hahaha... definitely a new use of an acronym So, sounds like there might be some issues going on with the C so tough for us to advise without being in tune to the situation. Maybe it's something more important than fastballs and curves. Maybe son can appeal to him that way... "hey, everything OK? I can't get better as a P and you can't get better as a C if all we're doing is throwing FB's. What's up?" If still no response, at some point, maybe son has to go to the HC but, at the same time,...
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RJM ·
Do you have an older daughter who played sports? DD is a girl’s sports term. I’ve never heard DS. I’m thinking my son might have had a comment had I called him Darling Son.
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LousyLefty ·
DD and DS are pretty common online abbreviations (in non-sports circles). Very prevalent on parenting boards and college admission boards as well. Don't forget the DH, which doesn't stand for Designated Hitter
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cabbagedad ·
There are other boards? ... THERE ARE NON-SPORTS CIRCLES ?!?!?!? Seriously, I don't get out enough.
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meads ·
I have been in threads on this site where DS was used...originally I posted “my son” and thought oops and changed it to DS. Oh well....
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used2lurk ·
TideFan, thanks for the post...thank you to all who post here. I have been a lurker for a couple of months now and this is post #1. I have a 2022 who was a catcher/pitcher combo until the end of the spring season this year. I agree with the majority of advice/info given thus far on this thread but do want to post a warning or caution for you and your son to consider. My son was similar to yours from a velo standpoint with him touching 78 this last spring on the mound while catching a lot of...
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JABMK ·
The size of a pitcher and catcher will matter to a D1 HC/RC. Pitchers are typically in the 6'2"-6'-5" range for D1 and catchers are typically 6'-0"-6'2". If your son would like to compete at a D1 then my suggestion is to showcase as a catcher. As Fenway stated, catching is the most important position on the field. With plus defensive catching skills coupled with ability to hit then most HC/RC will overlook size. I have seen many catchers 5'10" who can hit that are successful at the D1 level.
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TideFanRTR ·
Thanks Guys for the replies..... USED2LURK - You hit the nail on the head. The only reason our kid is not catching right now is because of his pitching skills. To his teams, his ability to go out there and win a game on the mound right now is his most important contribution. He is also a solid hitter (always ends a season in the .300 - .350 batting average) so he always has a spot in the line-up as an infielder or DH/EH. He too developed a soreness (never a pain) in his shoulder which was...
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CollegeParentNoMore ·
The video camera is a mile away. Try shooting closer from the 1st dugout side so all your mechanics can be clearly seem. Edit to exclude the standing around time, take more time to recover between throws.
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Buckeye 2015 ·
I don't see any more than maybe 2 of those being at 2.2.....your arm strength is a major issue at this point if you're hoping to really cut your pop times down. A few of those throws are 12-15' high when they cross the pitchers mound.....you need to be throwing them at or a foot above his head. Work on that and your POP times will come down. Your footwork doesn't look bad on the throws that the pitcher gave you that you could work with....it's all an arm issue right now. Once you get that...
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thank you, I got more video today. Will post the link.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thanks for the reply. I am working on arm strength. Lifting now until March. I got more video today on a grass field. Will post the link ASAP.
 
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