Tagged With "Catching"

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Catcher Skills

Wesleythecacther ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdHr6JAOE2s   Here is a link to my video from Baseball Factory. Here is a link to my Baseball Factory page: http://members.baseballfactory...er/_/109066/#member/   Can I have any catching advice, more on...
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Mid-Atlantic Rookies and Mike Chroniger

Wesleythecacther ·
I am wondering if Mike Chroniger's team is still the Mid-Atlantic Rookies. I am getting catching lessons from him. Can anyone please give some "reviews" on his coaching? I am very excited to get lessons from him as I've heard form one person that he...
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Catching mask

Backstop1512 ·
Okay guys, so I am a catcher recently going into High School. I have worn a hockey mask for all my life. I haven't had much problems with it. I have an All Star MVP4000 and I love it. As I continue to get older I keep seeing more and more traditional...
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Pitcher wanting to catch

Former Member ·
So...my son has been pitching for a couple of years. He's in 8th grade, playing on his high school team. in the past, he's expressed a desire to catch, but because of his birthday he has typically been one of the younger (smaller) kids on his teams. Fast forward to high school, the 5 catchers in the baseball program seem to be the smaller framed players, so this has reignited his interest in catching. He tells me that he wants to catch to become a better pitcher, learn more about game...
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FoxDad ·
Generally, by HS it's rare for a player to catch and pitch and do both effectively. Catcher's usually have a short throw for the pick off throw to 2nd (Ie, they don't bring their arm all the way back - usually throw from the ear). Catching is tough on the knees/legs due to squatting much of the time. Even if he doesn't pitch the same day as catching, the effect can still be felt. If your son wants to catch, that's fine. He just needs to realize he may have to give up pitching. It's one of...
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FFXfireman ·
My boy was a RHP/C right up until high school when his travel coach (a well accomplished RHP) told him he needed to choose. His biggest issue was, not only the different mechanics, but the wear on the arm. No position on the field throws the ball more than the pitcher and catcher by far. That repetition is a recipie for overuse and injury. Since entering HS (he's a 2018), he has been a RHP/OF and that's done quite well for him. Good luck!
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playball2011 ·
Catching to be a better P makes no sense. My son caught and P until age 13 when we saw that catching was a contact position at times so we had him stop because his P abilities were better and didn't want to worry about injuries, which he had a few minor ones. son also moved from SS/3B to outfield when not P which he loved. He got in the long toss he needed. With 5 catchers in program how much playing time would son get? The fact that he can play Inf positions will get him more time.
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lionbaseball ·
Be careful for what you wish. We are in a small school (400 HS kids) so the talent depth is shallow. My son catches and pitches and to be honest I don't see his catching form interfering with this pitching form. My biggest concern is that in tournaments or playoffs he will pitch one game and catch the next. Not only arm fatigue but the squatting takes a toll on your legs which are instrumental in pitching. During the season it's not a big deal because we play 2 games per week. So the 1st...
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CaCO3Girl ·
My son is also a 2020 8th grader, who pitches and catches. He says that being a catcher has allowed him to be a better hitter. When you call for a specific pitch and you see it over and over again, how it moves, what the pitchers arm looked like, the spin...etc...well he swears it allows him better pitch recognition and he does have the lowest strike out percentage on the team...so he may have a point. I will say that getting into catching in 8th grade is going to be difficult. Catchers have...
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2019Dad ·
I'm going to have to disagree with CaCO3Girl on this one. There are so many examples of catchers who took it up in college or after turning pro (Buster Posey, Carlos Ruiz, Mike Piazza, etc.), that I don't think 8th grade is in any way "late." Just by way of example, one of the two catchers getting playing time at UCLA this year is a true freshman who was a high school infielder that UCLA converted to catcher this year -- and he's gotten 16 starts at catcher. So if he wants to become a...
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B-MoreBeast ·
I catch and pitch and only started catching regularly in the Spring/Summer of 2015. If he's committed to getting better and actually wants to play the position I'd say it's worth it to give him a shot. I saw some of the above comments regarding how catching skills take years and years behind the dish to develop, but if your son has a high baseball IQ and a natural feel for the game he'll catch on quickly. I've found that it is very much a reactionary position as much as it is an anticipatory...
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Backstop22 ·
We went through almost the same thing with my 2017 when he was an incoming Freshman. He was an OF/P with a strong arm and then the Varsity coach saw his Freshman team with two poor catching options and suggested to my son he would have a better chance of playing more as a C (he had caught some in Pony but it had been two years). So what I did was make a deal with him that we would buy some basic used catcher's gear for his Freshman season, and if he still wanted to catch and the coach wanted...
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RJM ·
As someone noted there are name catchers who didn't catch until college. Bob Boone was an All American third baseman at Stanford. The Phillies made him a catcher in the minors. Blake Swihart was drafted for his athleticism and moved to catcher in the minors. I've seen a few middle infielders and centerfielders moved to catcher in high school. They have the hands and the arm. Pitching and catching? Not a good idea for the arm or the legs.
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playball2011 ·
You will not see a P/C in college. Possey was a SS I believe in HS. This kids HS team already has 5 catchers, unless he's amazing he won't be a catcher there. To the dad whose son is in HS and a starting P on Fri then catching the Sat game. WHY r u allowing that? The coach is only thinking of winning a game, not what's best for your sons arm. If this kid is a good P I would not let him start catching too. You'll have to deal w coaches like this one that will abuse arm.
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CaCO3Girl ·
RJM, the OP said there were 5 catchers and his kid was on the small side. You and the other posters are talking about turning a highly athletic player into a catcher....I think that's a bit different than picking up the gear in 8th grade and beating out 5 guys for the job while trying to pitch.
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RJM ·
Posey was the shortstop at FSU. Rod Delmonico was fired as head coach at Tennessee. He was buddies with Marrtin. He became an assist. His son was an all SEC shortstop at Tennesee. He transferred to FSU with his dad. The FSU catcher graduated. Posey was moved to catcher.
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Former Member ·
Sorry, should have specified...the five catchers are as of right now, not counting 1 graduating and 1 expected to transfer, leaving 3...1 varsity, 2 JV. Thanks for the That's good advice, his travel ball coach and HS know each other... I agree, all the catchers I see now are athletes. He is one of the more athletic kids on his travel team and even though he is almost the youngest on his HS team, he has nearly the fastest 40 times with great range and a wicked arm. Thanks for the advice
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redbird5 ·
Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm strengthening/stabilizing program. We use Jamie Evans' Velo-City (...
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CaCO3Girl ·
Has your velocity been clocked on your throw down?
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standballdad ·
Originally Posted by redbird5: Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm strengthening/stabilizing program. We use Jamie Evans'...
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Wesleythecacther ·
Originally Posted by CaCO3Girl: Has your velocity been clocked on your throw down? I have been clocked at 75 mph.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Originally Posted by standballdad: Originally Posted by redbird5: Wesley, As a 16 year old, you have a good base to work with. I would recommend three things immediately: 1. Lose the Knee Savers. This should allow you to get lower in your stance. Also along that line...get more flexible in your hip flexors. Take a yoga class. You have a pretty good sized frame and you will need to present a low target at times. Flexibility is very important. 2. Find a long toss or arm...
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Re: Catching mask

piaa_ump ·
Trojan skipper hits this on the head.....if you play under NFHS rules, and most all HS baseball is, there is no choice, the traditional mask and helmet are prohibited for NFHS play. it does have to be NOCSAE certified and have dual ear protection......thus the HSM is the most used mask......
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BishopLeftiesDad ·
Originally Posted by Backstop1512: Okay guys, so I am a catcher recently going into High School. I have worn a hockey mask for all my life. I haven't had much problems with it. I have an All Star MVP4000 and I love it. As I continue to get older I keep seeing more and more traditional style masks. I also thought they were cool looking, and after doing some research on them, I have read some Pros and Cons. Most Cons were saying how it doesn't cover ears, or their state doesn't approve it. The...
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Backstop1512 ·
Originally Posted by BishopLeftiesDad: Originally Posted by Backstop1512: Okay guys, so I am a catcher recently going into High School. I have worn a hockey mask for all my life. I haven't had much problems with it. I have an All Star MVP4000 and I love it. As I continue to get older I keep seeing more and more traditional style masks. I also thought they were cool looking, and after doing some research on them, I have read some Pros and Cons. Most Cons were saying how it doesn't cover ears,...
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Golfman25 ·
Unless you trust that the hitters won't clip you, I would stick with the hockey style.
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Smitty28 ·
You have an All-Star MVP4000 and you're thinking of using a two-piece? Geez, that's the best mask you can get. It's pretty cool looking too if you consider Yadier, Buster, etc.
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Coach_Sampson ·
If you're comfortable wearing the hockey style helmet then stick with it.
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coach2709 ·
The mask helmet is there for protection and safety. Never make a decision on any safety equipment based on how cool it looks or what others are doing. Get the one that protects you the most. That would be the hockey style mask.
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Batty67 ·
Originally Posted by coach2709: The mask helmet is there for protection and safety. Never make a decision on any safety equipment based on how cool it looks or what others are doing. Get the one that protects you the most. That would be the hockey style mask. My son is in 9th grade and will be trying out for his HS team in the next few weeks. He has always used a hockey style mask since he started catching in LL 5-6 years ago. All the time he asks me about getting a traditional style and,...
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coach2709 ·
Originally Posted by Batty67: Originally Posted by coach2709: The mask helmet is there for protection and safety. Never make a decision on any safety equipment based on how cool it looks or what others are doing. Get the one that protects you the most. That would be the hockey style mask. My son is in 9th grade and will be trying out for his HS team in the next few weeks. He has always used a hockey style mask since he started catching in LL 5-6 years ago. All the time he asks me about...
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Go44dad ·
....But the whole "cool" and "everyone's doing it" is generational. When the hockey style mask came out everyone wanted to have one because it was "cool" and "everyone's doing it" as well. Now that the hockey style is the norm the kids coming up see the old two piece as trendy...... I'm waiting for the curved bill hat worn straight to come back in style.
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BackstopDad32 ·
My son wears both of the All Star types. We live in TX so in the school year he has to wear the hockey style. No issues with it. In the summer he prefers the two piece. He is a kid who sweats a lot and he finds the two piece to be more comfortable in the heat. He claims it stays drier as well.
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Sugi ·
My son is a 14yo 8th grader and prefers the two piece (Mizuno mask, Wilson skull cap)over his hockey style helmet (All Star 2500). He will wear the All Star if rules says it so and has no problems wearing either. He just prefers the two piece. He says the two piece is cooler (temperature not looks) and on foul tips don't ring his bell like the hockey style sometimes does. The fact that the foul tips don't rattle him is enough for me to support it. I coach his team and I have argued for him...
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Smitty28 ·
Originally Posted by Sugi: My son is a 14yo 8th grader and prefers the two piece (Mizuno mask, Wilson skull cap)over his hockey style helmet (All Star 2500). He will wear the All Star if rules says it so and has no problems wearing either. He just prefers the two piece. He says the two piece is cooler (temperature not looks) and on foul tips don't ring his bell like the hockey style sometimes does. The fact that the foul tips don't rattle him is enough for me to support it. I coach his team...
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Coach_Sampson ·
The only reason I preferred the two piece set up was that it was easier to wear sunglasses with the mask on.
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Batty67 ·
And let's not forget the super-extension follow-through that can clip a catcher in the side or back of the head. Yes, rare, but it does happen. Just another safety consideration.
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trojan-skipper ·
High school rules require the one piece, hockey style, the rationale on I that was there was no way you test a 2 piece together... Kids wear different helmets with different masks. Keep your 2 piece for summer ball but you have no choice for high school.
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mepp ·
Related question: My son wants to go to a 2 piece mask because he says that he can see better with it. It seems like that wide design of the mask gives a better view both peripherally and directional line of sight. Was wondering if anyone else had seen that as a reason for going to the old style. Comments?
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Coach_Sampson ·
I've worn both... and there is a perceived difference in field of vision but not any real difference. I think it is due to the sides of the helmet being against your face. But like said before, if your son plays under NFHS rules he has to wear the hockey style helmet
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Bulldog 19 ·
Originally Posted by mepp: Related question: My son wants to go to a 2 piece mask because he says that he can see better with it. It seems like that wide design of the mask gives a better view both peripherally and directional line of sight. Was wondering if anyone else had seen that as a reason for going to the old style. Comments? You can come up with whatever reason you want, NFHS rules specify that the mask must be approved by NOCSAE as a unit. The two-piece mask/helmet does not meet...
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New Video of Receiving, Blocking, and Throwing

Wesleythecacther ·
Hello everyone. I just uploaded a new skills video to YouTube here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3A_IRAiJFY Please give me some feedback on what you guys think. Any advice is appreciated.
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POP TIME HELP NEEDED

Wesleythecacther ·
Here is a link to video that I took today: https://youtu.be/LYaIejiLi30 Any advice for catching? I felt like my throws were good and quick, but I timed them at 2.2, nothing below 2.0 which I think I can get. Any advice for mechanics?
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CollegeParentNoMore ·
The video camera is a mile away. Try shooting closer from the 1st dugout side so all your mechanics can be clearly seem. Edit to exclude the standing around time, take more time to recover between throws.
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Buckeye 2015 ·
Again, the footwork isn't bad....but the video overall is of absolutely no use to you....though the camera angle from there is much better than from behind 2nd. Throwing to a net just doesn't work....you just can't get an idea of where the throws really are. I wouldn't bother doing another one until you can have a player at 2nd catching your throws. Heck, have your little sister or brother stand off to the side 5-10 feet away and throw to you...and let the kid in the video (looks like he can...
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Buckeye 2015 ·
The camera behind you was ok....much better than the one from out by 2nd base
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thanks for the glove movement tip, will work on it. As for the helping of the video shooting, I will try to get help. Hard to have people that will help you when they want to do other things. Where do you suggest that I have the camera at? I have it set up on a tripod and can't have anyone hold it.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thanks for the reply. I am working on arm strength. Lifting now until March. I got more video today on a grass field. Will post the link ASAP.
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Buckeye 2015 ·
I don't see any more than maybe 2 of those being at 2.2.....your arm strength is a major issue at this point if you're hoping to really cut your pop times down. A few of those throws are 12-15' high when they cross the pitchers mound.....you need to be throwing them at or a foot above his head. Work on that and your POP times will come down. Your footwork doesn't look bad on the throws that the pitcher gave you that you could work with....it's all an arm issue right now. Once you get that...
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